Michaël Molenaar wrote: Is it only about caring? For some it also the opportunity.
Not to put too fine a point on it -- but at some level I think we make our own opportunities. I have certainly seen people surmount incredible obstacles to be where they cared to be. And at the end of the day, that is what really counts for me. Call it real commitment, or something. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michaël-SYSt Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam Dear all, Harrison wrote: "Lots of people "could have come" but only a certain number really cared (enough) to come." Is it only about caring? For some it also the opportunity. So it seems to me that Open Space really starts before the event. And that all who care are given the real opportunity to come. And to give a place for those who didn't come for some reason. So give a place for those who wanted to come, but could not (for a real reason}. (hoping for a good opportunity to come to a OSONOS in the future, so it's a personal thing too) Best wishes, ________________________ Michaël Molenaar Systemisch Consult Tilburg - Holland [email protected] Website: www.syst.nl Tel: +31 (0)13 5770070 GSM +31 (0)6 51561095 ________________________ -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Harrison Owen Verzonden: dinsdag 12 april 2005 20:36 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: [OSLIST] FW: 1st OS in Vietnam Masud Wrote: Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people? If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened" (if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say; "Whoever came are the only people who could have come" ******************** I suppose we could -- but that would miss the point, I think. Lots of people "could have come" but only a certain number really cared (enough) to come. And besides, they are the only ones present :-). Their "care" makes them the right/appropriate/present people. And in my book, it is the "caring" that counts. That doesn't make all the other "possibles" bad, evil, immoral, or ugly -- they just didn't care enough to come. Maybe next time???? Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Masud Sheikh Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people? If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened" (if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say; "Whoever came are the only people who could have come" Masud On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:45 -0700, Elwin and Joan [email protected]> wrote: >--- Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: >> Idiomatic language is devilishly hard to translate, >> and I suspect idiomatic (colloquial) English is the worst offender. >I >> opted for "right" = "appropriate." Sounded good to me. What do you >> think? > >Harrison, > >I think you did the "right" thing! Since 90% of my OST is in former >USSR countries I am constantly asked the same question(s) about the >terms used in the Four Principles. Again, you did the right...err >"appropriate" thing. > > > >Elwin Guild >Future Development International >Baltimore >[email protected] * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
