"so, like, whatever" could be a principle, too, right?! On 5/24/05, Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Wendy -- the principles were not (as is usually the case) worked out in > advance as prescriptions of what ought to happen. Rather they were > observations by myself and many others as to what actually did happen. The > same would be true with the Law. Not an "ought" but an "is." > > Is this right? I don't know, but that is the way it happened. Whenever I say > Principles and Law -- I always smile, because I know it/they are not what > people usually expect. > > Harrison > > > Harrison Owen > 7808 River Falls Dr. > Potomac, MD 20854 > USA > 301-365-2093 > 207-763-3261 (summer) > website www.openspaceworld.com > www.openspaceworld.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it > > Hmmm...this is interesting... > > I guess I made an assumption somewhere along the line here, that the actual > principles of OST were freedom, self-organization, responsibility, caring, > maturity, invitation, positivity, productive chaos, self-authorship, > etc....And that the things we call "The Principles" and stick up on the wall > are actually just part of the container we create to hold chaos at a > manageable level for productive self-organization. Let me clarify a bit...I > think I am seeing "The Principles" as what we use to inspire confidence in > the process for the participants...most of whom have never encountered OS > before and find it a bit unsettling at first. They need some reassurance > that what is happening is normal, okay and will work--in order to relax and > give it try. In this regard, I think a certain amount of prescription would > be okay, if not perhaps even necessary? I may be completely wrong. > > This leads me to wondering...How would things change if we just had the Law? > Not that i'm suggesting this at all...it just makes me go hmmmm.... > > And yonder bi-furcated post-metamorphosis caterpillar with the ricepaper > fans causes updrafts of great significance in the Easternmost Orient once > again... > Well...that is how Bi-Coloured Python Rock Snakes always talk. > O Best Beloved... > Wendy > > PS, Harrison: I'll bring my Kipling to Halifax if you'll bring yours...;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Masud Sheikh" <mashe...@cogeco.ca> > To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: leverage points > > > > Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote: > >>Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as a blinding > > flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only ones there! And the > > reason they are there is that they cared enough to come. That does not > > make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or terrible -- but the fact > > of the matter is that they didn't care enough to come. Now maybe the next > > time they would feel differently -- care more. Make the necessary > > arrangements, or sacrifices! But for this particular Open Space -- those > > who care came. And CARING is the sole criteria for entry. That alone makes > > them the "right people." No Caring -- no come... > >> > >>And why would this be true? Well, I think Open Space is all about passion > > and responsibility. And if you don't CARE -- no passion, and little hope > > of accepting responsibility. Who on earth would take responsibility for > > something they don't care about? > >> > > We have been through this before, Harrison. I find it judgmental (being > > judgmental myself, I know judgment when I see it :-)) How about changing > > it to: "Those who felt invited, came"? > > Masud > > > > * > > * > > > ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 24/05/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 24/05/2005 > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, > unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To > learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
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