As a former debater (& current trial lawyer) I have one metaphor I like & use extensively: "stepping into" alternative (and/or shared) realitie(s). This is what makes peace. Best, John
________________________________ From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynda Klau Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OSLIST Digest - 29 Sep 2005 to 30 Sep 2005 (#2005-268) Hi All, For language beyond debate Two alternatives come to mind: Courageous Conversations -- also the title of more than one book Conversations at the Edge-- a phase David Whyte -the poet and corporate speaker-- likes to use which I like very much Best, Lynda Lynda Klau, Ph.D. FOUNDER/CEO LIFE UNLIMITED Specializing in Human Evolution Executive & Life Coaching, Speaking/ Training, Clinical Psychologist phone: 212-595-7373 E-mail: [email protected] website:http://www.DrLyndaKlau.com By the time the sun rises tomorrow The world could look entirely different. On 10/1/05 2:00 AM, "OSLIST automatic digest system" <[email protected]> wrote: > There are 4 messages totalling 845 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Alternatives to Debate/Was Re: Open Space in the European Community > 2. Cross Cultural Facilitation (2) > 3. Estonian Open Space Institute founded and Murphy's Laws ab out Open Space > Technology (OST) > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:41:22 +0300 > From: Funda <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Alternatives to Debate/Was Re: Open Space in the European > Community > > I like the word and the concept of "dialogue" > > "dialogue & delibaration" is also meaningful ( Sandy Heierbacher uses these > words on Peggy's message) > > Funda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana Larsen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:29 PM > Subject: Alternatives to Debate/Was Re: Open Space in the European Community > > >> Hi All, >> >> Time to stop lurking, I guess. ;-) >> >> When the purpose of a gathering (or that part of a gathering) is to >> explore ideas more than it is to make decisions, I create an additional >> flip chart poster with four continua. As I open space (notice the lower >> case) for groups, I extend the invitation to focus on: >> - inquiry rather than advocacy >> - discussion rather than debate >> - conversation rather than argument >> - understanding rather than defending >> >> Participants have come to me to say that it helped them for me to make >> this distinction in the kinds of possible discourse. They hadn't thought >> about the fact that they had options to choose from when they interacted >> on topics about which they felt passion. >> >> Peace! >> Diana >> >> Diana Larsen >> www.futureworksconsulting.com 503-288-3550 >> >> I'll be at the Pacific Northwest Software Quality Conference in Portland >> OR USA, Oct 10-12, 2005. They are ready to accept registrations! Sign up >> now for a great conference: >> http://www.pnsqc.org >> http://www.pnsqc.org/conference05/workshops.php >> >> Other Upcoming Events: >> - Open Workshop with Diana Larsen, Esther Derby & Ken Schwaber >> "The Secrets of Agile Teamwork: Beyond Technical Skills" >> Dec. 6-8, 2005, Portland OR USA >> http://www.futureworksconsulting.com/events.html >> >> >> On Sep 29, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Harrison Owen wrote: >> >>> Very good point! I have just been invited to facilitate a gathering of >>> 200 >>> Rabbis and Imams from around the world -- on the question "Issues and >>> Opportunities for enabling peace between Jews and Muslims" (At least I >>> think >>> that is the question). And that nasty word "debate" came up in our >>> discussions of how to write the invitation. I can certainly understand >>> how >>> it jumps up -- given everybody's history. But it really is a bummer. We >>> do >>> need to think of some alternatives. "Engaged Conversation" might head in >>> a >>> more fruitful direction. And other possibilities would be wonderful. >>> >>> Harrison >>> >>> Harrison Owen >>> 7808 River Falls Drive >>> Potomac, Maryland 20845 >>> Phone 301-365-2093 >>> >>> Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com >>> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org >>> Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm >>> [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: >>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >>> >>> >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of [email protected]: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:21:31 +0800 > From: Brendan McKeague <[email protected]> > Subject: Cross Cultural Facilitation > > --=====================_9262265==.ALT > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > G'day folks in the OS global community > A new client has asked me about facilitating a=20 > one-day OS for a group of stakeholders and others=20 > about the creation of a refuge/hostel for=20 > indigenous women - she has only minor concerns=20 > about using Open Space having recently=20 > experienced her first event with me - her major=20 > concern is about using a non-Aboriginal white=20 > male as the facilitator - see honest and=20 > forthright comments below - and this event would=20 > be in a different part of the country from where=20 > I live and where I'm not known locally in the=20 > indigenous community - any thoughts on this=20 > query? Any stories of this sort of cross-cultural/gender scenario? > Cheers > Brendan > We have an opportunity with the new site being=20 > built in ----- to devote some of our resources to=20 > responding to the plight of indigenous=20 > families. Having a different focus away from the=20 > mainstream site gives our service an opportunity=20 > to explore, with the assistance of indigenous=20 > stakeholders, a different way of responding to=20 > women and children from indigenous families=20 > escaping violence. I don=92t know what this will=20 > look like and it will be difficult and we won=92t=20 > always get it right. It will be a process of=20 > learning and experimenting with new ways of responding to families. > > This is like a leap into the unknown for us=20 > because it will change our service. It has not=20 > been undertaken by any other service to my=20 > knowledge, so there is no blue print to how we=20 > should proceed. Having said this, I do think it=20 > is possible and I believe it will have a positive=20 > impact on our service as a whole. > There would be about 35-40 people invited to this=20 > gathering which would represent all of the key=20 > groups that would have an interest in a=20 > mainstream organisation taking on and providing a=20 > service to Aboriginal women and children. > There has been a positive reaction so far to the=20 > proposal from Aboriginal organisations but I am=20 > sure we will face some resistance/perhaps=20 > hostility? (I will probably know this before we=20 > enter an open space) =96 and in a sense that is one=20 > of the reasons why I think an Open Space forum=20 > will be good so that we can hear and respond to people=92s concerns. > One of my concerns Brendan is how they will=20 > receive you as a facilitator of this process. I=20 > am confident about you holding the space for us=20 > to discuss these issues but I also don=92t want to=20 > set you up in the process either. I am worried=20 > that there might be some hostility to a man=20 > facilitating the process and not a woman (you may=20 > be the only man there). I would love your=20 > thoughts around this and whether you have done=20 > anything similar before. Part of me says be=20 > courageous and go with what you think will work=20 > and another part of me is scared stiff! > > * > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > --=====================_9262265==.ALT > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html> > <body> > G'day folks in the OS global community<br> > A new client has asked me about facilitating a one-day OS for a group of > stakeholders and others about the creation of a refuge/hostel for > indigenous women - she has only minor concerns about using Open Space > having recently experienced her first event with me - her major concern > is about using a non-Aboriginal white male as the facilitator - see > honest and forthright comments below - and this event would be in a > different part of the country from where I live and where I'm not known > locally in the indigenous community - any thoughts on this query? Any > stories of this sort of cross-cultural/gender scenario?<br> > Cheers<br> > Brendan > <dl> > <dd>We have an opportunity with the new site being built in ----- to > devote some of our resources to responding to the plight of indigenous > families. Having a different focus away from the mainstream site > gives our service an opportunity to explore, with the assistance of > indigenous stakeholders, a different way of responding to women and > children from indigenous families escaping violence. I don=92t know > what this will look like and it will be difficult and we won=92t always get > it right. It will be a process of learning and experimenting with > new ways of responding to families. > <dd> > <dd>This is like a leap into the unknown for us because it will change > our service. It has not been undertaken by any other service to my > knowledge, so there is no blue print to how we should proceed. > Having said this, I do think it is possible and I believe it will have a > positive impact on our service as a whole. <br> > > <dd>There would be about 35-40 people invited to this gathering which > would represent all of the key groups that would have an interest in a > mainstream organisation taking on and providing a service to Aboriginal > women and children. > <dd>There has been a positive reaction so far to the proposal from > Aboriginal organisations but I am sure we will face some > resistance/perhaps hostility? (I will probably know this before we enter > an open space) =96 and in a sense that is one of the reasons why I think an > Open Space forum will be good so that we can hear and respond to people=92s > concerns. <br> > > <dd>One of my concerns Brendan is how they will receive you as a > facilitator of this process. I am confident about you holding the > space for us to discuss these issues but I also don=92t want to set you up > in the process either. I am worried that there might be some > hostility to a man facilitating the process and not a woman (you may be > the only man there). I would love your thoughts around this and > whether you have done anything similar before. Part of me says be > courageous and go with what you think will work and another part of me is > scared stiff! =20 > </dl></body> > </html> > * > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > --=====================_9262265==.ALT-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:29:49 -0700 > From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Cross Cultural Facilitation > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C5C60E.78422610 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Brendan, > > > > I can't comment specifically on the cross-cultural experience beyond my > anti-racism training but I have worked in the battered women's movement for > ten years and the concerns are valid. That said, I think that there will be > fewer problems with OST than there would be with other processes as your > goal is to be as invisible as possible anyway. There is also the potential > benefit in the end of being a positive model that they don't get to see very > often. > > > > I would suggest, for yourself, you may want to spend a little time > evaluating your cultural competence (I have a tool for this that you could > probably adapt if you want) and gender analysis so that you are sure you are > comfortable going in there-and fully aware of what you are likely to face. > Bottom line is that they have no reason to trust you and many probably > won't. If you do choose to go ahead, I think that you need to be as > authentic and upfront as possible when you open the circle. If you think > about this from an appreciative angle, if you open by addressing your power > and privilege and by acknowledging that they have no reason to trust you, > you can then move right on to why that's okay-maybe even a good thing, > because this isn't about you anyway-it's about them. This is their space, > their time, their wisdom. You're just there to hold the space so that they > can get to work on what has heart and meaning for them. Look to your > sponsor for guidance on language and metaphor that will speak to the group. > Your honesty and vulnerability could make the difference. > > > > Just my two-cents worth. > > Contact me off-list if you want the cultural competence tool or other info > on connecting with white privilege. > > Cheers, > > Wendy > > [email protected] > > _____ > > From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brendan > McKeague > Sent: September 30, 2005 8:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Cross Cultural Facilitation > > > > G'day folks in the OS global community > A new client has asked me about facilitating a one-day OS for a group of > stakeholders and others about the creation of a refuge/hostel for indigenous > women - she has only minor concerns about using Open Space having recently > experienced her first event with me - her major concern is about using a > non-Aboriginal white male as the facilitator - see honest and forthright > comments below - and this event would be in a different part of the country > from where I live and where I'm not known locally in the indigenous > community - any thoughts on this query? Any stories of this sort of > cross-cultural/gender scenario? > Cheers > Brendan > > We have an opportunity with the new site being built in ----- to devote some > of our resources to responding to the plight of indigenous families. Having > a different focus away from the mainstream site gives our service an > opportunity to explore, with the assistance of indigenous stakeholders, a > different way of responding to women and children from indigenous families > escaping violence. I don't know what this will look like and it will be > difficult and we won't always get it right. It will be a process of > learning and experimenting with new ways of responding to families. > > > > This is like a leap into the unknown for us because it will change our > service. It has not been undertaken by any other service to my knowledge, > so there is no blue print to how we should proceed. Having said this, I do > think it is possible and I believe it will have a positive impact on our > service as a whole. > > There would be about 35-40 people invited to this gathering which would > represent all of the key groups that would have an interest in a mainstream > organisation taking on and providing a service to Aboriginal women and > children. > > There has been a positive reaction so far to the proposal from Aboriginal > organisations but I am sure we will face some resistance/perhaps hostility? > (I will probably know this before we enter an open space) - and in a sense > that is one of the reasons why I think an Open Space forum will be good so > that we can hear and respond to people's concerns. > > One of my concerns Brendan is how they will receive you as a facilitator of > this process. I am confident about you holding the space for us to discuss > these issues but I also don't want to set you up in the process either. I > am worried that there might be some hostility to a man facilitating the > process and not a woman (you may be the only man there). I would love your > thoughts around this and whether you have done anything similar before. > Part of me says be courageous and go with what you think will work and > another part of me is scared stiff! > > * * ========================================================== > [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, > unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C5C60E.78422610 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = > xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > > <head> > <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Dus-ascii"> > <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> > <!--[if !mso]> > <style> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > </style> > <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType > namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = > name=3D"PersonName"/> > <!--[if !mso]> > <style> > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > </style> > <![endif]--> > <style> > <!-- > /* Font Definitions */ > @font-face > {font-family:Tahoma; > panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {mso-style-type:personal-reply; > font-family:Arial; > color:navy;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > --> > </style> > > </head> > > <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> > > <div class=3DSection1> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi = > Brendan,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can’t comment specifically = > on the > cross-cultural experience beyond my anti-racism training but I have = > worked in > the battered women’s movement for ten years and the concerns are > valid. That said, I think that there will be fewer problems with = > OST than > there would be with other processes as your goal is to be as invisible = > as > possible anyway. There is also the potential benefit in the end of = > being > a positive model that they don’t get to see very often. = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would suggest, for yourself, you = > may > want to spend a little time evaluating your cultural competence (I have = > a tool > for this that you could probably adapt if you want) and gender analysis = > so that > you are sure you are comfortable going in there—and fully aware of = > what > you are likely to face. Bottom line is that they have no reason to trust = > you > and many probably won’t. If you do choose to go ahead, I = > think that > you need to be as authentic and upfront as possible when you open the > circle. If you think about this from an appreciative angle, if you = > open > by addressing your power and privilege and by acknowledging that they = > have no > reason to trust you, you can then move right on to why that’s = > okay—maybe > even a good thing, because this isn’t about you = > anyway—it’s > about them. This is their space, their time, their wisdom. = > You’re > just there to hold the space so that they can get to work on what has = > heart and > meaning for them. Look to your sponsor for guidance on language = > and > metaphor that will speak to the group. Your honesty and = > vulnerability > could make the difference.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just my two-cents = > worth…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Contact me off-list if you want the > cultural competence tool or other info on connecting with white = > privilege.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>= > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wendy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>[email protected]<o:p></o:p></span></font= >> </p> > > <div> > > <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = > size=3D3 > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> > > <hr size=3D3 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> > > </span></font></div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = > size=3D2 > face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = > <st1:PersonName > w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName = > w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brendan = > McKeague<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> September 30, 2005 = > 8:22 PM<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = > w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Cross Cultural > Facilitation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > </div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 12.0pt'>G'day folks in the OS global community<br> > A new client has asked me about facilitating a one-day OS for a group of > stakeholders and others about the creation of a refuge/hostel for = > indigenous > women - she has only minor concerns about using Open Space having = > recently > experienced her first event with me - her major concern is about using a > non-Aboriginal white male as the facilitator - see honest and forthright > comments below - and this event would be in a different part of the = > country > from where I live and where I'm not known locally in the indigenous = > community - > any thoughts on this query? Any stories of this sort of = > cross-cultural/gender > scenario?<br> > Cheers<br> > Brendan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>We have an opportunity with the new site = > being built > in ----- to devote some of our resources to responding to the plight of > indigenous families. Having a different focus away from the = > mainstream > site gives our service an opportunity to explore, with the assistance of = > indigenous > stakeholders, a different way of responding to women and children from > indigenous families escaping violence. I don’t know what = > this will > look like and it will be difficult and we won’t always get it > right. It will be a process of learning and experimenting with new = > ways > of responding to families. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>This is like a leap into the unknown for us = > because it > will change our service. It has not been undertaken by any other = > service > to my knowledge, so there is no blue print to how we should = > proceed. Having > said this, I do think it is possible and I believe it will have a = > positive > impact on our service as a whole. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>There would be about 35-40 people invited to = > this > gathering which would represent all of the key groups that would have an > interest in a mainstream organisation taking on and providing a service = > to > Aboriginal women and children. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>There has been a positive reaction so far to = > the > proposal from Aboriginal organisations but I am sure we will face some > resistance/perhaps hostility? (I will probably know this before we enter = > an > open space) – and in a sense that is one of the reasons why I = > think an > Open Space forum will be good so that we can hear and respond to = > people’s > concerns. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>One of my concerns Brendan is how they will = > receive > you as a facilitator of this process. I am confident about you = > holding > the space for us to discuss these issues but I also don’t want to = > set you > up in the process either. I am worried that there might be some = > hostility > to a man facilitating the process and not a woman (you may be the only = > man > there). I would love your thoughts around this and whether you = > have done > anything similar before. Part of me says be courageous and go with = > what > you think will work and another part of me is scared stiff! = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > </div> > > </body> > > </html> > * > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C5C60E.78422610-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 08:41:32 +0300 > From: Mikk Sarv <[email protected]> > Subject: Estonian Open Space Institute founded and Murphy's Laws ab out Open > Space Technology (OST) > > Dear friends! > > Yesterday gathered first time the initiative group of Estonian Open Space > Institute and decided to get it launched. For beginning there is more Open > Space part than Institute - we decided to start as unformal group for > beginning. Our next meeting is the 4th of November and our dream or ambition > is to organise next year on the first week of June in Tallinn, Estonia the > European OSonOS. > > Our first contribution to the Open Space world is th Murphy's Laws about > Open Space Technology, put into words by Arno Baltin with additions from > Jyri Bachman and Jaago Piller, translated into English by Toomas Niit. You > are much welcomed to contribute to the work with your amendments and new > parts. > > Mikk Sarv > > Murphy's Laws about Open Space Technology (OST) > > > > 1. If anything can go wrong, it will. > > 1.1. If it does not go wrong, it is Open Space (OS). > > 3. When the paying part is an eager user of the OS, nothing much comes out > of it. > > 4. When the participants come unwillingly, there will be a powerful and > uhibited discussion. > > 5. When the discussion is fruitful, it will let to go wrong. > > 6. If OST produces something new, the participants do not recognize it as a > result of OST. > > 7. If the opener of space is very considerate, it makes the participants to > struggle against. > > 7.1. If the opener of space is unconciderate, the result is the same. > > 8. When it feels that it's over, it is just starting. > > 9. When everybody is present, somebody is still missing. > > 10. If you haven't got anything to learn from the discussion or to add to > it, your feet are like planted into the ground and you feel that you can't > use them. > > 10.1. When you finally can get your feet moving, the discussion is becoming > interesting. > > 10.2. When the discussion becomes interesting, the time is over. > > > 11. When you start an important topic, only the butterflies come into the > group. > > 11.1. When the last butterfly leaves, you'll understand that the topic wasn' > t significant at all. > > 12. A bee does not feel being a bee before meeting a butterfly. > > Jüri Bachman's addition: > > > 13. When the right people are present, someone still leaves - these are the > right people who do. > > > 13. 1. The right people are there when we aren't. When we aren't, they are > there. When we arrive, they are about to leave. > > 14. If during the OST the impetus calms down, the flame goes out, or the > pessimism takes over, it fires a new passion. > > > (and from Jaago Piller): > > > 15. Laughter discharges the lost energy. > > 15.1. The loss of energy discharges from laughter. > > > > Welcome to everybody! > > (And a note to Arno Baltin: Translation during the prime-time television > without open space will cost you 5** EEK + two dark beers in a closed > space). > > Toomas Niit > > Murphy's grandfather in Estonia > > September 30, 2005 > > 2:15 am > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ----------------------------- > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSLIST Digest - 29 Sep 2005 to 30 Sep 2005 (#2005-268) > ************************************************************* * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
