Thank you Chris for your beautiful piece. 

Yesterday we have  just concluded (with Tova and Shay) a complex project with 
the Jerusalem municipality with half a day of AI and a day of OS (180 people 
from all ranks and units and some guests). The theme was creating cross 
boundaries partnerships within and outside the Municipality.

The CEO givens were that anything within this theme that will be according to 
the 5 year plan (until 2009) and city policy will have his and the system full 
support. other issues are legitimate as well but the full support of the system 
will be considered.

Allthough I tend to agree with Chris about the differences between the 
business/high teck world and the community based organizations, I find that 
many sponsors in businesses are using these kind of givens.

A crucial point in the more structured organizations ( and most businesses are 
like that) is the threat of OS to the top management (and sometimes medium m.). 
As OS flattens the organization, unless they feel also as leaders of this 
process they won`t let it really fly high.
Sometimes CEO`s are using OS to surpass their management in order to bring more 
space/ energy/initiatives to their organizations. We have to be carefull how to 
work with it and not to be easily tempted. In these cases the OS itself can be 
a wonderfull thrilling event but it might be `killed` softly later, even when  
the CEO is competent and charismatic.  


Avner Haramati
Jerusalem
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Corrigan 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Is anything possible?


  I have been finding lately that in the world of business, government and big 
organizations, people are much less likely to let go of control than in 
community settings.  Corporations exist to stabilize and protect things: 
assets, property, ideas, money, reputations...they are all about control.  
Communities are messy, evolutionary, out of control and chaordic.   I find that 
Open Space works beautifully in community settings, and works great in 
organizations where you are all about building a community, or where the 
leaders understand that the real way anything happens in the organization is if 
you view the whole enterprise as a big messy community, in which the agency of 
all contributes to the bigger good.  In general, you will find very few people 
in corporations willing to take this risk, but in communities, for the most 
part, this is how people operate. 

  I've given up on the holy grail of using OST in Fortune 500 settings to help 
groups of IT managers find innovative work processes, for example.  It's 
certainly possible there, and applicable and probably improves the world in 
some small way.  But I've seen OST animate community action on poverty, 
sustainability, rights, suicide, drug addiction, homelessness, food security, 
economic development and child welfare.  I've seen people who have nearly 
nothing find a true sense of power and purpose in the process.  So I've taken 
to using it in places where it makes a huge difference in the lives of people 
and communities, and I hold this arena in high regard, because the people who 
take risks here do so with everything on the line, and in some cases, 
everything means their life. 

  Dee Hock's quote is about living and life.  People live and die in 
communities every day.  If they are willing to bring that richness of 
experience to work in the corporations and organizations that exist all over 
the place, Open Space will follow them in there and do all kinds of great 
things.  But it will not make magic for folks who don't want to truly 
experience the naked terror of "Is anything possible?" 

  Cheers,

  Chris


  On 4/3/06, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
    Thomas -- I hear what you are saying, and I can certainly understand why
    certain executives would want to hold onto some "givens" (which I read as
    "controls"). And these are the same people who want certainties and 
    guarantees. The only problem is there are no certainties, no guarantees in
    this life. There never have been, and there never will be. Yes, of course,
    there is one -- Life will end. But in the interim between beginning and 
    ending -- everything is at risk, everything is uncertain. And that, of
    course is both the joy and terror of living. Dee Hock of Chaordic
    Organization fame has a nice phrase (amongst many) in his book. Dee was 
also 
    the CEO of one of the world's largest corporations: Visa International. Goes
    like --

    "Life is not about control. It's not about getting. It's not about having.
    It's not about knowing. It's not even about being. Life is eternal, 
    perpetual becoming, or it is nothing. Becoming is not a thing to be known,
    commanded, or controlled. It is a magnificent, mysterious odyssey to be
    experienced."

    Harrison

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas
    Herrmann
    Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:35 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Is anything possible?

    Dear friends in Open Space
    I am wondering where you find those leaders in organizations and 
    corporations who are willing to support whatever will emerge from an
    OS-meeting? Unfortunately my experience is that this level of trust is very
    hard to find. I´ve also experienced leaders closing the space down, which 
    could have been avoided if they had had some givens to hold on to.

    I always do my best to give the sponsor the possibility to make an informed
    decision about if they think OST is the meeting format they´d like to use. 
    Using the concept of givens, I think makes it possible for the sponsor to
    open authentic space within the reality of that organization. Well, as
    he/she who is accountable perceives that reality anyway.

    Then of course it is important work to minimize the givens! And next time 
    there may be fewer...

    But this question is not easy, if we´d have had an OS-meeting 15 years ago
    in Gothenburg about making the town internationally known, building an East
    Indiaman at a cost of 500 000 000 SEK would probably have been far 
exceeding 
    any thinkable givens....now it is on its journey to China!

    So the question may be - is anything possible? And are the persons in charge
    willing to take responsibility for whatever happens - without any givens? I 
    agree there is a difference when working focusing primarily within an
    organization where someone is in charge - or thinks he/she is in charge.

    I have a given tomorrow morning, have to get up early so:
    Warmest regards and good night 
    Thomas Herrmann         Phone +46 (0)709-98 97 81
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