Thanks Chris and Harrison. The site chris mailed to me was great and interesting. One of my business clients wants a day out with his whole staff. Thin k I am going to advise him to invite everyone of his comoany for a potlatch... Carla Met vriendelijke groet, drs. Carla Vliex Adviseur Organisatie Ontwikkeling ------------------------------------------------------------------ Twynstra Gudde Adviseurs en Managers Stationsplein 1, 3818 LE Amersfoort Postbus 907, 3800 AX Amersfoort 033-4677761 06 53927407 Internet www.twynstragudde.nl
________________________________ Van: OSLIST namens Chris Corrigan Verzonden: ma 10-4-2006 18:31 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event Here's some information on potlatches held around here: http://collections.ic.gc.ca/potlatch/ Cheers, Chris On 4/9/06, Vliex, Carla (cvl) <[email protected]> wrote: Being not a native speaker and getting quite curious: WHAT IS A POTLATCH?? Carla from the Netherlands Met vriendelijke groet, drs. Carla Vliex Adviseur Organisatie Ontwikkeling ------------------------------------------------------------------ Twynstra Gudde Adviseurs en Managers Stationsplein 1, 3818 LE Amersfoort Postbus 907, 3800 AX Amersfoort 033-4677761 06 53927407 Internet www.twynstragudde.nl ________________________________ Van: OSLIST namens Harrison Owen Verzonden: do 6-4-2006 13:38 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event I guess I must have attended a rogue Potlatch - but they do some funny things in Alaska. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20854 Phone 301-365-2093 Skype hhowen Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org <http://www.openspaceworld.org/> Personal website www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/> OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html> -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Corrigan Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event Just a technical piece...potlatches are about as far from Open Space as you can imagine. They are highly structured and controlled events and there is very little tolerance for anything that lies outside of the control of the people that are responsible for given parts of the ceremonies. In fact, working here on the west ocast of North America, where the feasting culture is integral to traditional forms of governance, using Open Space sometimes becomes a real challenge. On the other hand, most people i work with who stop to think about it agree that Open Space resonates on a deeper level and taps something that seems to lie at the heart of many different traditional and indigenous cultures. But potlatches...woowhee...they would drive you around the bend, Harrison! Chris On 4/5/06, Harrison Owen < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > wrote: Diane -- Surprise! And guess where a major part of the inspiration for Open Space came from? Indigenous Market places! All of which work pretty much the same was as a Potlatch. Same old, same old :-) Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20854 Phone 301-365-2093 Skype hhowen Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website www.ho-image.com OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archivesVisit: www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Diane Brandon Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event Chris's comment resonated for me. Our family has had some wonderful weekends centered around an indigenous pow wow. Usually it's a full weekend - sleep over two nights - and there are lots of things going on -- food vendors, arts and crafts vendors, children's games, always the circle in the center, drumming much of the time, dances of many sorts, great ceremonial dress, some or all dances open to all (some for skilled dancers only), story telling, flute playing, sometimes sweat lodges, sometimes workshops on healing/spiritual topics or on making things, and nothing requires attendance! Many people sit around their campsites, sleep, talk at picnic tables, swim in the river where that's an option, take care of kids -- oh yes, all ages are welcome and are there, with a lot of honor for elders (much appreciated by this grandmother) and for veterans (something I was on the fence about - but my husband was in the Navy for 4 years in the Vietnam era, and it means so much to him to dance in the veterans' honoring dance, and I get to join him.... so I've warmed to it). Many people camp out in tents and trailers, so we live together for the weekend, and the cost is minimal. There's plenty of room for offering what you want to offer, if not in a more formal way, then via your own campsite and conversations there or as you walk around. (I'm sure if you hang a flag at your campsite about your topic, you'll attract some interest!) The place-basedness of it, and all the preparation that goes into it on the part of the tribe or tribes or individuals that organize it (they usually include one free feast, and often a give-away), seem core to the sense of deep satisfaction people get from going to these weekends. I think it's very close to Open Space! Diane Brandon Eliot, Maine On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Chris Weaver wrote: > on a related large other topic, i am deeply interested in the overlap > between ost and ceremony in indigenous traditions. festival life, > which > culminates on a specific piece of land for a specific period of time, > has > some fascinating resonance with ceremonial space/time. a topic to > explore > another time. * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected] : http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist -- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - Facilitation Open Space Technology Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com Open Space Resources: http://tinyurl.com/r94tj * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist -- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - Facilitation Open Space Technology Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com Open Space Resources: http://tinyurl.com/r94tj * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
