Hi folks, I want to pick up on the "love" subject.
Resonating with Maturana, offered in simple words is a definition of love I believe to have found in the book "The Urban Shaman" ~ the definition originating from Hawaii: "Love is to be happy with." To me it seems to express both, the scientific perspective shared by Pat and the basis of Open Space Technology. And it's easy to remember :) Happily, Marei -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu [mailto:owner-osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] Im Auftrag von Pat Black Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2008 16:42 An: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Betreff: Re: Nutrient beginning Seems like goodness is a human cognitive notion and the universe is more inclusive than that. Seems like the most fundamental quality of the universe and self organizing is relationship. I speculate that even in the oneness there can be relationship. I can't really describe that at this moment but seems possible. In the relationship model all possible self organizing can occur even the ones we wouldn't categorize as good. The notion of the beginning being love fits well with Huberto Maturana's science/philosophy. He says love is inherent to biological entities and is inherent to the intelligence of life. I suspect that it is fundamental to self organizing or formation of all relationships. Maturana defines love as a class of behaviors through which another entity or being becomes legitimate to self and in which relations can occur. Through this coupling or relationship the maintenance and well-being of the other is fostered as its own identity, and maintained as if for the self. In other words we no longer focus and promote the agenda that maintains our own well being but put forth the agendas of our self and the self of the other with equal force and intention and legitimacy. Maturana states that it is this phenomena of love that leads to complex emergence and organizing. He is a biologist so that is as far as he takes it but I believe that all organization arises from a base or seed unit. If you follow it back to the beginning there has to be a seed fractal that the more complex manifestation is based on. So if it is love in biology it must be love all the way back. So within this definition open space works because it allows for love as defined as "behaviors through which others arise as a legitimate other in coexistence with oneself" to emerge. It is in this way the essence of love in its most basic form Interview with Maturana: "Love is the domain of behaviours through which another arises as a legitimate other in coexistence with oneself. Love is an emotion constituting a certain space in which relations occur - no more, no less." Pat black On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Ralph Copleman <rcople...@comcast.net> wrote: > We seem to be saying the original idea of the universe is essentially > about goodness, that the emergence of the universe is not a neutral > proposition. It's goodness is intentional. And inherent. This may > explain why open space does not seem to be neutral, that it brings out > the best from so many people. > > Yes? > > Ralph Copleman > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
