Hello Pat. I've been trying to stay out of this conversation, but now I feel the need to wade in with my size 7½ boots. (That's small as UK sizes go - no sniggering please!)
You say: > *They use what is available to them to form relationships and are present > and conscious in those possibilities as they change.* Conscious? I'm curious to know what you mean by that. Thanks, Jack Jack Martin Leith Creative activist Bristol, United Kingdom Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541) Skype: jackmartinleith email: j...@jackmartinleith.com www.jackmartinleith.com 2008/10/2 Pat Black <patoitexti...@gmail.com> > One of the principles used to describe the why and the how of OST is self > organizing systems. This is, in my opinion, the core of why OST works. > Everything in creation with the possible exception of hydrogen is self > organizing. Self organizing systems are self sustaining by definition or > they disappear. They use what is available to them to form relationships > and are present and conscious in those possibilities as they change. As > their environment changes because of their activity self organizing systems > find uses for waste which enables their sustainability. It is different > than capitalism, I think, because there is no consciousness to > sustainability in capitalism. I am not very knowledgeable about economics > but it seems to me that capitalism does not address sustainability. Its > focus is on doing what is possible in them moment without regard for > consequences. Seems like the best governments are able to moderate that > "laissez-faire" notion with consciousness about sustainability. Pat Black > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Martin Boroson <ma...@becomingme.com>wrote: > >> I am wondering … >> >> >> >> The philosophy of Open Space seems to promote a genuinely free market for >> ideas. The underlying belief, as I understand it, is that allowing each >> person to follow his/her passion is the best way to discover the best ideas >> and solutions. It's efficient, just like a market. This sure sounds like >> the 'invisible hand' and laissez-faire capitalism to me. >> >> >> >> I have even sold Open Space to some corporate execs by pointing out that >> since they value the free market so dearly *outside* their company, they >> might want to try a free market *for ideas* inside their company. >> >> >> >> So I have often wondered if people on this list believe as passionately in >> the free market for the economy as they do in Open Space. In the current >> economic crisis, as the world clamors for greater regulation – i.e. more >> rules and limits on the freedom of markets – I am wondering if any of you >> have any thoughts or insights to share. >> >> >> >> I imagine Harrison will remind me that Open Space runs on freedom >> *and*responsibility… yet the responsibility asked of participants in Open >> Space >> is pretty minimal – naming their passion and showing up for their sessions >> and respecting others' freedom to do the same. It's well short of >> socialism. >> >> >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Priory End House >> >> 2 North Street, Totnes, Devon TQ9 5NZ >> >> United Kingdom >> >> +44 784 344 5746 (mobile) >> >> www.martinboroson.info >> >> >> * * ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To >> subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about >> OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > * * ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
