Dear Gijs,
another gift of OST: to stop a activity and be happy about it! Thank you
for the relief (Since I was one of the people who expressed general
interest but than never mad it to one of the calls.).
doing less creates spaces
Jo
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Gijs van Wezel schrieb:
The monthly Asia call had only a few participants in Aug and Sept. For tomorrow
only Funda was available, but the topics reflect little urgency.
Gail from Taiwan phrased it as follows:
"It doesn't seem to be working for me - how
about others? I wonder if, like OS events, if there isn't something
urgent I really care about at the moment, nothing happens. What
I'm most interested in these days (and for the next few months) is
how it's going with the Wave Trek, what people are planning and what
they are learning as they go along."
For this reason, I will stop the calls.
Gijs van Wezel, MSc
Mega Partners Int'l (China)
Open Space Group Facilitation
www.megainternational.com.hk
www.openspaceworld.org
Shanghai, China
+86-21-64061336
+86-15921806910
skype: gysgys
Quoting funda oral <fundaoral2...@yahoo.com>:
Hi Olga,
You are facilitating very short ost meetings. Here in Turkey, I am also asked
to organize ost meetings for 2-3 hrs. I facilitated 3-4 short time meetings.
As OST is the best and most efficient way to organize a meeting, all of them
were very succesful.
Then i facilitated other meetings organized by OST which took longer time.
I think in one day OST meetings ( 6-7-8 hours), conversations get deeper,
the frienship
increases. In 2-3 days OST meetings the probability that people get organized
and take action to make some changes together increases.
The subject of your meeting, "Evaluating the Effectiveness of Trainings”
is quite interesting. I guess due to the short time available, only the cost
pertspective was discussed during the meeting. Given longer time, many
another perspectives would have been discussed.
Welcome,
Regards,
Funda
--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloo...@rambler.ru> wrote:
From: Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloo...@rambler.ru>
Subject: Hello
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:02 AM
Hello everyone!
My name is Olga, I currently live and work in Moscow. In 2005 I
came across OST for the first time, while I working in a
telecommunications company. In 2006, I was a participant of an OST
meeting in St. Petersburg led by Raffi Aftandelian. Then I started to
use this approach in my workshops. I want to thank Raffi for helping me
see how OST and OS principles can inform my training approach. Also,
I’d like to thank him for information about OSLIST. It helps me
to acquire additional experience and find answers to my questions.
This year I have been using OST as a part of my workshops.
Usually I offer a three hours OST meeting towards the end of each two
day workshop. These short OST meetings are an opportunity for
participants to talk about those things around which they have a real
passion.
Also in August this year I conducted an OST meeting for a
corporate training club in Voronezh, a provincial city near Moscow. The
theme of meeting was “Evaluating the Effectiveness of
Trainings.” I think this kind of meeting is very important for
corporate Russian training sector. It was interesting to hear different
opinions about the evaluation of business education. Many participants
thought that many evaluation approaches are impossible as they require
lots of resources: time, money, people to do the work. And often the
evaluation ends up being more resource-intensive than the actual
training, be it short or long-term.
The meeting of corporate trainers lasted just three hours; the
sessions lasted for one hour. And the trainers spent the whole time
together.
Thanks for everything.
Greetings from Moscow,
Olga.
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