these messages were for all the group --- On Mon, 10/13/08, funda oral <[email protected]> wrote:
From: funda oral <[email protected]> Subject: Re: wondering continued To: "Michael M Pannwitz" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 10:40 PM I will work volunteerly in the facilitation team. I can work to arrange a meeting room, if the meeting takes place in Turkey. We can maybe even create a budget for that. Is there anyone who wants to work to create a budget to finance such a meeting? Funda --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> wrote: From: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> Subject: Re: wondering continued To: [email protected] Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 11:26 AM Dear Funda and you others out there, is there a sponsor for this topic that has been suggested?: "How we can get organized to stop hunger and war in our world by next month?" 29 days left! Cheers mmp funda oral wrote: > Dear Michael > > This is the main topic suggestion for an ost meeting. This is not an issue for the bulletin board. > > Regards, > Funda > > --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: wondering continued > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 2:37 PM > > Dear Funda, > "suggesting" a "topic" to "the market of open space > world" (I imagine > you mean this list serve as that market) is different from standing up > and saying "My name is ... and my issue is ...." in an open space > gathering. > I wonder what would happen if I were to receive an invitation to an > event with the title "How can we get organized to stop hunger and war in > our world by next month?" > Would I drop everything and make sure to take part in that event? > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > funda oral wrote: >> i suggest one topic to the market of open space world : >> >> - how we can get organized to stop hunger and war in our world by next > month? >> >> Funda >> >> >> --- On Wed, 10/8/08, John Rapp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: John Rapp <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: wondering continued >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:04 PM >> >> >> >> >> For those of us who have spent a few years in Deep Kimchi -- and spent > serious time experiencing the "bottom billion" poorest people in the > world, whose kimchi is often all they have -- the biggest difference between the > "free" markets, and True Open Space, is that the free markets do not > readily support The Law of Two Feet. Have you noticed how many more > professional butterflies and bumblebees we see these days? So many Wonderful > Beings (incl. many of you) are seeking, persistently, to, somehow, "get off > the grid" ... mostly without a great deal of success. For this world is, > increasingly, dominated by the Powers of which Jesus and other seers have so > often warned us. >> >> Space Opens only with Form. Our "free world" and > "free" markets -- when they work -- bristle with unseen protections. > Could you open an effective Marketplace in non-Green Baghdad? In 1980s Beirut? > I wonder sometimes if we forget how harsh a form-free world may be. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Martin Boroson > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you all, for deepening my wondering. >> >> I was especially struck by Harrison's comment that capitalism and the > market are not synonymous. And by those of you who spoke about the listening > and connectivity that emerges in Open Space. >> >> Some continued wonderings, influenced by yours: >> >> a. Perhaps the so-called 'free market' is indeed an Open Space, > just much much bigger than any Open Space that any of us has facilitated. And > without a clear beginning or end, it's taking us a long time to experience > the connectivity and sense of responsibility that happens relatively quickly in > a more defined Open Space. >> >> b. Maybe the thing that invokes connectivity in an Open Space is the > presence of a question or theme. In an Open Space, we all gather together with > a shared concern or intention, and I suspect that this certainly tilts the odds > toward some kind of climax or resolution, and to experiencing some sense of > connectivity through common discovery. The 'free market', by contrast, > has the freedom of Open Space but not the shared intention. >> >> c. Putting (a) and (b) together: Maybe the free market is actually an > enormous Open Space, but we just don't know what the question is yet. > Maybe, because this enormous Open Space has no clear starting point or ending > point, it is taking us a long time to hear one another and realize that we are > all connected, and that we really do have a common question. Maybe we are just > starting to discern the underlying question that called us to participate in > this enormous Open Space. Maybe that question is: How can we share resources > equitably on this small planet? Or simply, How can 'separate selves' > live together in peace? And maybe we are starting to discern that there might > be, after all, a time limit. >> >> Marty >> * * ========================================================== > [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, > unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> * * ========================================================== > [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, > unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of [email protected]: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
