very true, harrison. that's what i have often done. and this time, since the question came in through the website, i just forgot. was also rather hoping to have some oslist company there and have a few answers posted in response to her question, where she actually posted it, without my having to cross post things. m
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates http://www.michaelherman.com http://www.ronanparktrail.com http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org http://www.openspaceworld.org 312-280-7838 (mobile) On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hey Michael – a thought. When somebody asks me a question that I think is > of broader (OSLIST wide) interest, I always suggest that they join the > list. Point is -- OSLIST is the record of LOTS of OS discussion and it is > valuable as a reference. It is free – but we do expect that people will > share. So I would hope that when people give substantive answers (and Chris > surely did!) that all of that discussion would be available for everybody. > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > Potomac, Maryland 20854 > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > Skype hhowen > > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org > > Personal website www.ho-image.com > > OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the > archives Visit: > www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html<http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html> > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Herman > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:14 PM > *To:* osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > *Subject:* Re: [OSLIST] teacher continuing education credits? > > > > thanks, chris. forwarding to the person who sent the question. > > everybody else, please note that the person who asked the question is not > on the list here. please reply to her directly (see original message) or > comment at the website. > > thanks. m > > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > > http://www.michaelherman.com > http://www.ronanparktrail.com > http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org > http://www.openspaceworld.org > > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Chris Kloth <ch...@got2change.com> > wrote: > > Answer follows... > > > > Quoting Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com>: > > > Comment: > I was wondering if anyone that has used open space tech for teachers or > schools has ever tried to get the participating teachers continuing > education credits as incentive? How did you go about this? Did it work? > Thanks! > > I have done many meetings with teachers and other educators in open space > over the years. On several occasions continuing education credits were > offered as an incentive and in others they were not. When there was a > sufficiently compelling question that was important to those attending > people came without the credits to do what they saw as important work. > > > When CEUs were offered is was as a bonus after we clarified the compelling > question. I am not sure if we had more people because of the CEUs. > > > I have to own a degree of ambivalence on this matter because the part of > who I am that can be judgmental can feel judgmental about people who need > credits before being willing to engage in important work. My less > judgmental side knows that, in the US, teachers are under-payed and already > working more uncompensated hours than we have a right to demand so if CEUs > help them get recognition or compensation they more than deserve it. > > > From my perspective the key to getting the CEUs awarded was having someone > as part of the planning team who had experience working the CEU system in > the jurisdiction AND understood how OST works so that s/he was able and > willing to frame the application for credits in a way that the reviewers can > approve and to advocate for the application when there were reviewers who > did not "get it." > > > Hope this helps. > > > Shalom, > > Chris Kloth > Senior Partner > ChangeWorks of the Heartland > 250 South Virginalee Road > Columbus, OH 43209-2052 > Phone: 614.239.1336 > Fax: 614.237.2347 > E-mail: ch...@got2change.com > URL: www.got2change.com > > > Think globally, Act locally > > > * * ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > * * ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
