Dear Christine,
I intrigued myself with your images:
unleashing self-organisation, stuffing the genie back into the bottle, seeds taking root... Even though I assume to understand what you mean, it struck me that I want to be more clear on the following:
- there is no way to "leash" self organisation
- its never been in a bottle
- its already deeply rooted, regardless of how much control or ignoring is employed. I know that an OST event can be shut down hard and quick when control takes hold but, of course, self-organisation will not be shut down. To me, these "subtleties" are important, because I humble myself with them and liberate myself from wanting to figure out the system or being attached to outcome...helping me to focus ("simply")on attempting to hold time and space. Greetings from Berlin where the first radishes of the year found their way from our garden to the kitchen table today...
mmp

Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
John & Rory,
......

John, what is also of interest to me is when the sponsors seem to be ready to unleash self-organization and once the genie is out of the bottle, want to try to stuff it back in. In those cases, I watch for where the self-organization seeds have taken root, even if the formal system seems to be ignoring them.

Thanks for the great discussion.

Warm wishes from toasty Phoenix,

Christine


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On May 14, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Rory O'Connor wrote:

Hi John & Christine,

I'm probably more practised in Spiral Dynamics that OST - which is not saying a whole lot. What I thought Spiral Dynamics could bring to OST was insight into how we might engage with people at all stages of the process - from forming the theme i.e. someone living in CO/Red Life conditions is not going to want to sit around and reach consensus on a theme. Likewise, DP/Blue and ER/Orange are probably going to have different questions that need to be answered in order to feel comfortable with the process. I do find that people living in FS/Green are probably most open to Open Space because of the emphasis on valuing other human beings. GT/Yellow might use it if/when it is appropriate to the Life Conditions of the people they are working with. They may opt for something else if THAT is what is required.

It's not to say that OST would not work, it's just that how it's introduced may need to be tweaked. And again, my caveat on all this is that I have only facilitated a handful of OST events

I'd love to explore more about how both OST and Spiral Dynamics might inform each other, and look forward to your response.

Regards,

Rory


On 14 May 2009, at 15:52, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:

Hi John,

I suspect many of us on the list have "dabbled in Spiral Dynamics". I've seen OST as a second tier methodology that works all the way down the spiral. How about you?

Warm wishes on this beautiful Phoenix morning,

Christine
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On May 13, 2009, at 12:33 PM, John Rapp wrote:

Michael/Peggy & fellow OSTers -- I've used OS/WR principles for many years in my work, which is mainly in & around law firms. I did 2 major open spaces, both for 100 so people, in Jakarta (1999) and Taipei (2002). Both were very successful on the day, and sources of sadness after, as the "powers" chose to ignore 99% of what came up.

I want to try again, as one of my personal missions is improve the world by changing the practice of law/yers. I'd love to help, and hear others' experiences with law. And anyone who has dabbled in Spiral Dynamics in this context would pique interest too.

Best
John

On May 9, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Peggy Holman <pe...@opencirclecompany.com> wrote:

Michael,

I did an OS with a law firm a few years ago. It included all of the support staff and none of the attorneys. It was a productive, successful meeting for them. The main thing I'd say is that we were a strange cultural mix. They never really felt that comfortable with me, but they sure liked the experience. As an example of the cultural challenge, I often suggest a few minutes of silence when a group gets together at the end of the day or on the second morning. This is one of the few groups that made it clear that this didn't work for them. It just made them uncomfortable. So, after trying it once, we simply got on to talking about the day.

Peggy

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On Apr 30, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Michael Wood wrote:

I am talking with a bunch of lawyers in a couple of weeks about “sustainability” in the legal profession. i.e. sustainability of the lawyers themselves since they often seem to work under such punishing conditions – depression on the increase etc.

Any stories out there about use of Open Space in law firms?

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