Pat-- You are welcome!
Your picture of a membrane is stretching my picture. I had seen a membrane as more or less two dimensional, sort of a film with no detectable thickness. Yet I sense that your membrane has space, sort of like those text book pictures of skin showing epidermis and dermis and several more layers. So there is more than a this side of the membrane and that side, but also an inside. And that comports with what I have been seeing for many years: there is this space where you and I meet which is not inside either of us, and there we play as in Rumi's field. I am not sure what your sentence about the veil means, and am curious. As you may know, veil has a special meaning to me. Thanks, Pat, for continuing the evocations! :- Doug. On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:20 -0500, Pat Black wrote: > I think of the between space as the permeable membrane. The shape of > the membrane, the spaces within the membrane change and are different > depending on what is happening on either side of it. It is constantly > transformed by the communication of its bordering spaces. These > spaces are changed by their relationship with the other space and this > between or membrane transforms itself to allow the continued > relationship of the two otherwise they would become poisoned. I see > the veil of the micro world so clearly in Alexander's description of > the macro world. Thanks Doug for sharing the quote. > Pat Black > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <we...@xe.net> > wrote: > Hi Doug, > You wrote: > > But I think there is a next step, a deeper step: it is to the > between. He writes of something *making* > me feel alive, *generating* a feeling of life, *inducing* > greater harmony: these speak of one (living) > thing touching--meeting--another. It is this bumping, > interacting, back and forth which is the > essence of what he is pointing to. This happens only in the > between. > > > I hear you speaking of ki. Here is a quote from Terry Dobson > Sensei: > > You are not an inert piece of stuff. You are a vibrating, > charged, radiant being. There is a meeting > between us. That's ki. > > As i understand it so far, ki is conceptualized as permeating > all matter, not just living beings. So it > could also be experienced in relationship to open space, in > any environment. > > Cheers, > Wendy > > * > * > > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > * * ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist