Changing OST? I would be delighted if it simply disappeared. Or at least disappeared as something we did. The reason is simple. The only way OST and what happens in it make any sense to me is to understand the whole thing as a fundamental application of the power of self organization. Needless to say, I didn't invent self-organization as it seems to have been around well before my time. Something like 13.7 billion years, more or less. In a word, we are talking about the basic flow power of the cosmos. Somewhere along the line we got the notion that it would be a good idea to organize a self-organizing system. As I have said on occasion, this is not only an oxymoron but stupid. If nothing else we are working twice as hard and only screwing up the system. In Open Space, I think we have the opportunity to see how it feels when we do it right. Eventually it should occur to us that we don't need Open Space as a middle man. I would call that progress.
Harrison Harrison Owen 189 Beaucaire Ave Camden, ME 04843 207-763-3261 (Summer) 301-365-2093 (Winter) Website www.openspaceworld.com Personal Website www.ho-image.com OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Fabian Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:09 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: I guess RE: Open Space being badly defined Thanks for the note Harrison, No doubt having a creation story like that is one of the reasons OS resonates with many of us, but you realize that establishing a creation story is a tactic that is used in marketing to establish a brand. (Ex. Apple was started by two guys in a garage, or Michael Jordan got cut from his high school b-ball team, etc.) Please don't take that observation as accusatory or suggesting you are making anything up...the marketing folks use that tactic cause it actually happens and it works. Nor do I suggest you purposely created OS to match your values. It could happen that way I suppose, but I have never read anything to suggest that. Perhaps this is a point of disagreement, but I believe that our values are reflected in just about everything we do. It is hard to get away from them. We might not be conscious of all of them or even choose to ignore them. I also think we might, for the sake of discussion, seperate out the creation of the A) OS form, and B) the rest of the material that explains the form. Like I said before, I find (A) the OS form to be pretty receptive to other value sets...if the participant is flexible enough to give the basic ground rules a go. But the form does express some values. I would suggest the (B) the explanatory material (both by you and others) also expresses a value set. Your interpretation and analysis of those questions you took on 4-5 years later I would guess are not only informed by your own values but the social/cultural moment when you were exploring them. Your interpretation of those questions would differ from someone who was more about making a buck for instance. To add one additional element to this, we might consider how values are expressed aesthetically. The feel of OS both in the language and visuals expresses values. For instance OS refers to "butterflies & bumble bees" rather than carriers of "social viruses". Feels different no? I don't think you need to rebrand OS. It is a lovely system as is, but it is bound to change...and it is my guess (based on the values I see expressed in the OS form) that you, Harrison, at least would be into seeing it change. Am I wrong? I would assume that OS will change because it is useful and because you have so generously given your insight away. Perhaps some folks will rediscover the same principles and think they are their own, perhaps they will "rebrand" OS just to make it feel more like their own. That is what I see happening at Barcamp...and the now the many other-"camps". Most folks who go to those other-"camps" have no clue what OS is and don't care cause the Barcamp idea is hip and the level of participation it offers blows their mind. Fun chatting. Cheers, Erik On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:20:31 -0400, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: >Erik -- Not to worry about accusation. It is doubtless deserved. But let's >go a little bit further. On the question of values, you mention that OST was >"rooted in a set of values." That would suggest that we started with a set >of values and then designed OST to match -- would it not? But the truth of >the matter is rather different. I simply had a conference to run, and was >too lazy and lacked sufficient time to do what most people did (Planning >groups, etc). To ease the pain and enjoy the Washington Spring I had two >martinis on my patio in April of 1985. By the end of the second (martini) >OST had been born -- Sit in a circle, create a bulletin board, open a market >place, and go to work. In July we (85 folks) "did it" and it worked, which >is to say we created a 5 day symposium with multiple sessions all of which >took place with little to no fuss. Not a planning committee or management >committee in sight. It wasn't that we were anti-planning or management; >neither were needed. Of course that raises all sorts of questions about the >utility/effectiveness of planning and management but none of us went there >at that point. Indeed it was only 4-5 years later that I really took OST >seriously and began to consider the questions it raised. Those questions >were appalling, for if valid virtually everything I knew from theory and >practice about the management of meetings, indeed management itself -- all >went poof. Not a comfortable experience only made worse by the fact that I >discovered that client groups were able to accomplish in 2 days what had >been taking them ten months to two years. The effect on my billable hours >was catastrophic. At some level I almost wish that I had never drunk the >martinis. I could have made a lot more money and nobody would be thinking >that what I did was weird, to say nothing of counterintuitive and heretical >(in need of �rebranding� :-)). > > > >A saving grace was the fact that Open Space is fun, and that people are fun >to be with in Open Space. That has been true for me all over the world. I >guess there are people who don't want to have any fun and run away when >folks get excited, innovative, creative and intense -- after all things >could get out of control! God love them and for sure they can be as >miserable as the want. I won't say a word. But for my self I truly enjoy a >full, open, joyous, fun life -- and wouldn't have it any other way. Ah -- >you got me! My values are sneaking through. > > > >Harrison > > > >Harrison Owen > >189 Beaucaire Ave > >Camden, ME 04843 > >207-763-3261 (Summer) > >301-365-2093 (Winter) > >Website www.openspaceworld.com > >Personal Website www.ho-image.com > >OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options >http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
