Harrison--
So self organizing is really doing less and less?
:- Doug.
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 15:44 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote:
> Holger -- After Open Space? ("Regularly, I have been asking the provocative
> question: "OST - so, what's next?" Not that I want OST to disappear. But we
> can't possibly assume that it will be around for the next 1300 years.") One
> way of thinking about how to answer that question might be to consider how
> we (or at least I) got to Open Space in the first place and see if there are
> any clues. What were the design principles? First answer might be, Drink Two
> Martinis -- but I am not sure how far that would take us. But when it comes
> to serious design principles, there has been exactly one in all the 25 years
> that I have been fussing with OST. That principle is: "Think of one more
> thing NOT to do." At the first Open Space, we did some small amount of
> "community building" and "warm up activities," all of which were quite
> pleasant, but as near as I could see, they didn't add much. So the next
> time, we didn't do them -- and everything seemed to work better. I could go
> through a pretty lengthy list of things we peeled off here and there -- but
> the bottom line is that Open Space as I would "do" it today happened by way
> of elimination. Less and less turned out to be more and more. Following this
> line of thought and general trend it could be that the "What next?" After
> Open Space is nothing at all. Actually I rather like that. If we really get
> it right we won't need extraneous processes to become fully what we are --
> self-organizing critters. Or something.
>
> Harrison
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> Subject: Re: Open Space being badly defined
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> Chris,
>
> you said:
>
> "In the world of self-organizing systems and evolutionary processes what
> matters is variety and diversity. Things only get better when millions of
> experiments are underway. From those experiments come the mutations and
> modifications that help create the next level. It's how Open Space emerged,
> and it's how it will disappear in good time too."
>
> I draw my hat in admiration - this was the most intelligent thing I heared
> somebody saying about whether or not Open Space Technology must be used in
> its original format (which we all love, and usually fight for) or not.
> Regularly, I have been asking the provocative question: "OST - so, what's
> next?" Not that I want OST to disappear. But we can't possibly assume that
> it will be around for the next 1300 years. Maybe it will: Robert Jungk's
> Zukunftswerkstatt still seems to be around, and that tells something about
> stickyness of methodologies :) .
>
> It reminds me of the question, "After John Cage, can there be any other new
> music?" John Cage produced the famous piece 4'33" in the early nineties -
> four and a half minute of pure silence:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E. But of course, there is new
> music, even if it will be difficult to beat the radicalism of John Cage.
>
> OST might probably remain the purest "technology of participation", as John
> Cage's 4'33". I wouldn't know how to simplify self-organized meetings. But
> as much as we love OST, people need to experiment in order to find out which
> borders to cross or to stretch. We (the OST aficionados) are in a way the
> keepers of The Holy Grail of OST and we need to be. But then, we mustn't be
> to change resistant. Sometimes, OST does not solve the issues of a client,
> even if more participation and collaboration is at stake.
>
> I repeat myself: if more and more groups who have different rituals and
> cultures find a way to host meetings with a self-organization component, I
> think we (and all the other Sandras, Marvins, Juanitas, Davids, etc.) can
> proudly say, "we were part of a global paradigm shift in collaboration."
>
> Some people will like OST better, and some not. I don't care. I love it as I
> love John Cage.
>
> Holger
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