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1. Reading and sustaining (3)
2. how do i say... (2)
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:58:09 -0400
From: Ralph Copleman <rcople...@comcast.net>
Subject: Reading and sustaining
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Hi all,
I've never understood the distinction between "summer reading" and
reading done during other seasons. Perhaps, because I don't like
spending time on the beach, I have never really had a specifically
summer-ish reading experience. Nevertheless I shall await suggestions
on this topic with interest. Good novels are great treasures. And I
throw in this recommendation: Prodigal Summer by the American writer
Barbara Kingsolver. I'd be happy to give away my copy to anyone who
requests it.
On the topic of how we foster sustainable OS outcomes, my first
reaction is, we can't. Perhaps I misunderstand, but I believe it is
not up to me (as a facilitator) to foster anything. I open space,
hold space, and close space. That's all I can do. Unless I'm
consulting to a system over a longer period than actual OS event, I
have no other responsibility. And even then, I'm not sure my job is
any different.
Ralph Copleman
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reading experience. Nevertheless I shall await suggestions on
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topic with interest. Good novels are great treasures. And I
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in this recommendation: <i>Prodigal Summer</i> by the American
writer =
Barbara Kingsolver. I'd be happy to give away my copy to
anyone =
who requests it.</div><div><br></div><div>On the topic of how we
foster =
sustainable OS outcomes, my =
first reaction is, we can't. Perhaps I =
misunderstand, but I believe it is not up to me (as a facilitator)
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foster anything. I open space, hold space, and close space. =
That's all I can do. Unless I'm consulting to a system
over =
a longer period than actual OS event, I have no other
responsibility. =
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:50:16 +0200
From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpa...@boscop.org>
Subject: Re: Reading and sustaining
Dear Ralph,
if I were near your house I would walk over and get that novel and
maybe
another nice kitchen utensil...the one you so graciously gave to me
about a decade ago has provided the most sustainable link to anyone I
ever had. Its not only in a prominent place in our kitchen so I can
easily reach it but its also in constant use reminding me of you and
your family and your hospitality...so much for not fostering
sustainability (I know you did this solely in your role as
"facilitator for sustainability" which is probably another way of
saying
"friend").
I also think its none of my business as open space facilitator to
foster
things like "sustainability of outcome" or anything else.
I dont even think I am openening the space since the sponsor has
already
done that before I walk the circle. Yes, "holding time and space" is
my
business between the sponsors opening and closing...whatever that
might be.
Doing that I think I am fostering something.
I like it simple, so I call that which I am fostering (it starts with
the first contact with the client and continues throughout the
planning
phase...) the conditions under which selforganisation can rear its
happy
head a little more than usual (having done that since the Big Bang and
probably even before that without me or anyone else in my experience
contributing to that).
And that is simple (with OST) but its not always easy considering the
enormous effort spent in man-made organisations and systems to keep
selforganisation strictly confined and under control.
Now, when selforganisation does get busier than usual, as is
observabel
in os-events, all kinds of stuff happens. Some of it some of us love
and
others fear: peacefulness, conflicts surfacing, fun communication,
destruction of leadership, emergence of new leadership, productive
exchanges and planning, projects being declared dead, being involved,
contributing, dismantling of control, projects that project beyond the
event, a spirit that sometimes hangs on in organisations till they
die,
people walking away from what interests me, getting a feeling for the
whole system, no longer relying on sustainable outcomes, new
hierarchies, sudden realisation that I am in the wrong place,
community,
etc.).
Considering all that I am privileged every time I am asked to
faciliate
an open space and I thank the group for that privilege in the closing
circle.
As far as (summer) reading is concerned I just saw the title
"The Organisation of Self-Organisation", Foundations of Systemic
Management by Fritz B. Simons / Conecta, ISBN 978-3-89670-447-4.
Since my summer and probably even fall is full with writing, I
appreciate it if someone who gets it for her or his summer reading to
let me know whats behind this oxymoron.
And in case you are in Berlin this coming Monday, join us in our
Stammtisch, selforganized, of course.
Have a great weekend and a safe 4th of July in the USA...us expacts
having been warned of getting too close to other USexpats for
celebrating the 233rd birthday...
mmp
Ralph Copleman wrote:
Hi all,
I've never understood the distinction between "summer reading" and
reading done during other seasons. Perhaps, because I don't like
spending time on the beach, I have never really had a specifically
summer-ish reading experience. Nevertheless I shall await
suggestions
on this topic with interest. Good novels are great treasures. And I
throw in this recommendation: Prodigal Summer by the American writer
Barbara Kingsolver. I'd be happy to give away my copy to anyone who
requests it.
On the topic of how we foster sustainable OS outcomes, my first
reaction
is, we can't. Perhaps I misunderstand, but I believe it is not up
to me
(as a facilitator) to foster anything. I open space, hold space, and
close space. That's all I can do. Unless I'm consulting to a system
over a longer period than actual OS event, I have no other
responsibility. And even then, I'm not sure my job is any different.
Ralph Copleman
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:08:02 -0500
From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com>
Subject: how do i say...
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my friend birrell walsh posted this to another list community i'm
part of.
i thought it captured so well what we did and must belong here in our
record, as well. enjoy...
"How do I say, in your language,
to allow a space to open
inside oneself, no - *as* oneself -
and in that space to have
such welcoming that others
come there too, not as images,
no, but *as* themselves;
and in unfolding as themselves
within the spacing you are being-as
they find ease and freedom (by the way)
to be well. How do I say that,
in your language," he, moving his tongue
around unfamiliar syllables, asked
so he could teach me.
if you like this, you might like some of his other poetry. he has a
book
posted at http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/heart-left-open/6660565
.
there are two of his favorite poems there, on the lulu product page.
in case you're inspired to purchase, it's worth noting that given
the weird
economics of publishing right now, he makes more money from the
download
(US$5.00 to the purchaser) than from the printed copy (US$22.00 plus
shipping). but of course, hardcopy is still hardcopy. the book
itself is
beautiful, very well and sturdily made, and with a remarkable cover
photograph from the collection of another friend, one radmila
krieger, of
munich.
if you want to know what birrell actually looks and sounds like, or
just
want somebody to read poems to you, he read twelve of his poems into
his
webcam and posted it at
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2217241E5367EB2A
or maybe it's enough just to enjoy this one, that seems to
understand our
work so well.
m
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Michael Herman Associates
http://www.michaelherman.com
http://www.ronanparktrail.com
http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
http://www.openspaceworld.org
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my friend birrell walsh posted this to another list community
i'm part =
of.=A0 i thought it captured so well what we did and must belong
here in ou=
r record, as well.=A0 enjoy...<br><br><br>><br>
> "How do I say, in your language,<br>
> to allow a space to open<br>
> inside oneself, no - *as* oneself -<br>
> and in that space to have<br>
> such welcoming that others<br>
> come there too, not as images,<br>
> no, but *as* themselves;<br>
> and in unfolding as themselves<br>
> within the spacing you are being-as<br>
> they find ease and freedom (by the way)<br>
> to be well. How do I say that,<br>
> in your language," he, moving his tongue<br>
> around unfamiliar syllables, asked<br>
> so he could teach me.<br>
><br>
<br><br>if you like this, you might like some of his other
poetry.=A0 he ha=
s a book posted at <a href=3D"http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/he=
art-left-open/6660565" target=3D"_blank">http://www.lulu.com/content/paperb=
ack-book/heart-left-open/6660565</a> .=A0 there are two of his
favorite poe=
ms there, on the lulu product page.<br>
<br>in case you're inspired to purchase, it's worth noting
that giv=
en the weird economics of publishing right now, he makes more money
from the download (US$5.00 to the purchaser) than from the printed
copy
(US$22.00 plus shipping).=A0 but of course, hardcopy is still
hardcopy.=A0 =
the
book itself is beautiful, very well and sturdily made, and with a
remarkabl=
e
cover photograph from the collection of another friend, one radmila
krieger=
, of munich.<br>
<br>if you want to know what birrell actually looks and sounds like,
or jus=
t want somebody to read poems to you, he read twelve of his poems
into his =
webcam and posted it at <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=
=3D2217241E5367EB2A" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis=
t?p=3D2217241E5367EB2A</a><br>
<br clear=3D"all"> or maybe it's enough just to enjoy this one,
that se=
ems to understand our work so well.<br><br>m<br><br><br><br>--
<br><br>Micha=
el Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.michael
=
herman.com">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ronanparktrail.com";>http://www.ronanparktrail.com
</a>=
<br><a href=3D"http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org";>http://www.chicagoc
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onservationcorps.org</a><br><a href=3D"http://
www.openspaceworld.org">http:=
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:34:44 -0400
From: Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Reading and sustaining
Michael -- I love you! You miserable old iconoclast (MOI). You are
miserable
because you make me laugh, Old -- because you and I are almost of an
age.
And an iconoclast because you are a blood brother. The circle of
MOI's is
actually a large one, but the membership is strictly controlled, and
access
granted only to those with the proper thought forms and secret
handshakes.
And since all thought forms are suspect, this is a great difficulty
for The
Circle. How on earth do you determine somebody to be a heretic when
everybody is?? But our tribe increases!
See you in The Circle -- Don't forget the handshake. You will
probably also
need to bring Ralph's cooking utensil so we will know that you are
authentic.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
189 Beaucaire Ave
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207-763-3261 (Summer)
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Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:50 AM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: Reading and sustaining
Dear Ralph,
if I were near your house I would walk over and get that novel and
maybe
another nice kitchen utensil...the one you so graciously gave to me
about a decade ago has provided the most sustainable link to anyone I
ever had. Its not only in a prominent place in our kitchen so I can
easily reach it but its also in constant use reminding me of you and
your family and your hospitality...so much for not fostering
sustainability (I know you did this solely in your role as
"facilitator for sustainability" which is probably another way of
saying
"friend").
I also think its none of my business as open space facilitator to
foster
things like "sustainability of outcome" or anything else.
I dont even think I am openening the space since the sponsor has
already
done that before I walk the circle. Yes, "holding time and space" is
my
business between the sponsors opening and closing...whatever that
might be.
Doing that I think I am fostering something.
I like it simple, so I call that which I am fostering (it starts with
the first contact with the client and continues throughout the
planning
phase...) the conditions under which selforganisation can rear its
happy
head a little more than usual (having done that since the Big Bang and
probably even before that without me or anyone else in my experience
contributing to that).
And that is simple (with OST) but its not always easy considering the
enormous effort spent in man-made organisations and systems to keep
selforganisation strictly confined and under control.
Now, when selforganisation does get busier than usual, as is
observabel
in os-events, all kinds of stuff happens. Some of it some of us love
and
others fear: peacefulness, conflicts surfacing, fun communication,
destruction of leadership, emergence of new leadership, productive
exchanges and planning, projects being declared dead, being involved,
contributing, dismantling of control, projects that project beyond the
event, a spirit that sometimes hangs on in organisations till they
die,
people walking away from what interests me, getting a feeling for the
whole system, no longer relying on sustainable outcomes, new
hierarchies, sudden realisation that I am in the wrong place,
community,
etc.).
Considering all that I am privileged every time I am asked to
faciliate
an open space and I thank the group for that privilege in the closing
circle.
As far as (summer) reading is concerned I just saw the title
"The Organisation of Self-Organisation", Foundations of Systemic
Management by Fritz B. Simons / Conecta, ISBN 978-3-89670-447-4.
Since my summer and probably even fall is full with writing, I
appreciate it if someone who gets it for her or his summer reading to
let me know whats behind this oxymoron.
And in case you are in Berlin this coming Monday, join us in our
Stammtisch, selforganized, of course.
Have a great weekend and a safe 4th of July in the USA...us expacts
having been warned of getting too close to other USexpats for
celebrating the 233rd birthday...
mmp
Ralph Copleman wrote:
Hi all,
I've never understood the distinction between "summer reading" and
reading done during other seasons. Perhaps, because I don't like
spending time on the beach, I have never really had a specifically
summer-ish reading experience. Nevertheless I shall await
suggestions
on this topic with interest. Good novels are great treasures. And I
throw in this recommendation: Prodigal Summer by the American writer
Barbara Kingsolver. I'd be happy to give away my copy to anyone who
requests it.
On the topic of how we foster sustainable OS outcomes, my first
reaction
is, we can't. Perhaps I misunderstand, but I believe it is not up
to me
(as a facilitator) to foster anything. I open space, hold space, and
close space. That's all I can do. Unless I'm consulting to a system
over a longer period than actual OS event, I have no other
responsibility. And even then, I'm not sure my job is any different.
Ralph Copleman
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:36:56 -0400
From: Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: how do i say...
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Michael - I love you too (yet another Michael!), and your gift (from
Biurrell) is delicious.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
189 Beaucaire Ave
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207-763-3261 (Summer)
301-365-2093 (Winter)
Website www.openspaceworld.com
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Herman
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 1:08 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: how do i say...
my friend birrell walsh posted this to another list community i'm
part of.
i thought it captured so well what we did and must belong here in our
record, as well. enjoy...
"How do I say, in your language,
to allow a space to open
inside oneself, no - *as* oneself -
and in that space to have
such welcoming that others
come there too, not as images,
no, but *as* themselves;
and in unfolding as themselves
within the spacing you are being-as
they find ease and freedom (by the way)
to be well. How do I say that,
in your language," he, moving his tongue
around unfamiliar syllables, asked
so he could teach me.
if you like this, you might like some of his other poetry. he has a
book
posted at http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/heart-left-open/6660565
. there are two of his favorite poems there, on the lulu product
page.
in case you're inspired to purchase, it's worth noting that given
the weird
economics of publishing right now, he makes more money from the
download
(US$5.00 to the purchaser) than from the printed copy (US$22.00 plus
shipping). but of course, hardcopy is still hardcopy. the book
itself is
beautiful, very well and sturdily made, and with a remarkable cover
photograph from the collection of another friend, one radmila
krieger, of
munich.
if you want to know what birrell actually looks and sounds like, or
just
want somebody to read poems to you, he read twelve of his poems into
his
webcam and posted it at
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2217241E5367EB2A
or maybe it's enough just to enjoy this one, that seems to
understand our
work so well.
m
--
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
http://www.michaelherman.com
http://www.ronanparktrail.com
http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
http://www.openspaceworld.org
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of =
</span></b><st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Michael Herman</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July
03, =
2009 1:08
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> how do i =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>my friend birrell walsh posted this to another list
community =
i'm part
of. i thought it captured so well what we did and must belong
here =
in our
record, as well. enjoy...<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> "How do I say, in your language,<br>
> to allow a space to open<br>
> inside oneself, no - *as* oneself -<br>
> and in that space to have<br>
> such welcoming that others<br>
> come there too, not as images,<br>
> no, but *as* themselves;<br>
> and in unfolding as themselves<br>
> within the spacing you are being-as<br>
> they find ease and freedom (by the way)<br>
> to be well. How do I say that,<br>
> in your language," he, moving his tongue<br>
> around unfamiliar syllables, asked<br>
> so he could teach me.<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
if you like this, you might like some of his other poetry. he
has =
a book
posted at <a
href=3D"http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/heart-left-open/666056=
5"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/heart-left-o=
pen/6660565</a>
. there are two of his favorite poems there, on the lulu
product =
page.<br>
<br>
in case you're inspired to purchase, it's worth noting that given
the =
weird
economics of publishing right now, he makes more money from the
download
(US$5.00 to the purchaser) than from the printed copy (US$22.00 plus
shipping). but of course, hardcopy is still hardcopy.
the =
book
itself is beautiful, very well and sturdily made, and with a
remarkable =
cover
photograph from the collection of another friend, one radmila
krieger, =
of <st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">munich</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
if you want to know what birrell actually looks and sounds like, or
just =
want
somebody to read poems to you, he read twelve of his poems into his =
webcam and
posted it at <a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D2217241E5367EB2A";
target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D2217241E5367E=
B2A</a><br>
<br clear=3Dall>
or maybe it's enough just to enjoy this one, that seems to
understand =
our work
so well.<br>
<br>
m<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Michael Herman</st1:PersonName><br>
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Michael Herman</st1:PersonName> =
Associates<br>
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<a =
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a><br=
<a =
href=3D"http://www.ronanparktrail.com";>http://
www.ronanparktrail.com</a><=
br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org";>http://www.chicagoconser
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vationcorps.org</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org";>http://
www.openspaceworld.org</a><=
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312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
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