In my PhD dissertation about OST, I used this quote (from an article by the chair of my dissertation committee) and I make the claim that the two martinis were an ideal example of what are called here "corrective processes" - ways to reach beyond the rational for innovative resources for living.
"The literature abounds with examples of scientific breakthroughs which occurred with the help of corrective processes: Kekule's dream of the benzene ring, Howe's invention of the sewing machine needle with the help of a dream, Einstein's discovery of the basic principle of the special theory of relativity in a non-ordinary state of consciousness, and so on. Here we have outstanding examples of how the corrective processes–something clearly beyond the arc of (ordinary) consciousness–reorganized or corrected or amplified mental materials highly successfully . . . World cultures have often retained other ways of access to corrective processes . . . rituals, vision seeking, and the like–approaches which have clearly fallen prey to the verdict "irrational" in so-called civilized societies." (Kremer, 1986) Jeff Aitken PhD mount tamalpais Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:06:09 -0400 From: sdaig...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSLIST] 2 martinis To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu How can I not join this martini party? Open Space and a martini: life just doesn't get any better that. I'll have mine straight up please... Suzanne On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: The first gets you in the mood. The second does the deal. Any other questions? ho Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20854 Phone 301-365-2093 Skype hhowen Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website www.ho-image.com OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Susan M Kerr Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:17 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: 2 martinis Perfection!! But, why two martinis? Wouldn't we only need one? ;) Susan Kerr Arno Baltin <a...@tlu.ee> Sent by: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> 09/29/2009 02:05 PM Please respond to OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> To osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu cc Subject [OSLIST] 2 martinis Hello! The topic of principles, law and origins of OST comes up quite frequently on this LIST. Sometimes the conversations head up high into the sky. As my butterfly wings can't carry my bumblebee body that high, tried to find the answers a bit lower. Most times during these conversations "two martinis" are mentioned. So I was wondering may be there is the key to be found. Jeremy Narby has an idea, that lot of native people medicine formulas are given to them by the plants. It needs some special state of mind of course to be able to receive them. So I opened Wikipedia to find out what the martini is about. And of course as an European I have been totally blind about the meaning of the "martini". At first it is a totally American invention. "H.L Mencken once called the martini "the only American invention as perfect as the sonnet"."^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_%28cocktail%29#cite_note-1> So what kind of formula is offered to us by martini? It starts with the 4/1: "a standard modern martini is an approximate four to one ratio". So here is the origin of 4 principles and 1 law. "It is served in glass" - here comes the circle (when one looks at the glass from upside down). And "it is garnished with a green olive" (the facilitator). This is probably the essence. The rest comes almost by itself - "it is a cocktail - mix of different ingredients" (participants). I wouldn't believe it is that simple. 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