Michael--
I think Pat was responding to my question, to which Wendy was also
responding. My question is below Wendy's reply below.
:- Doug.
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 21:34 +0200, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
> Dear Pat,
> somehow I missed the "interesting question" that your referred to. I
> looked through all the recent posts and did not find Wendy's question.
> What was it?
> Greetings from Berlin where not a car or person nor a cat or dog is on
> the streets...
> mmp
>
> Pat Black schrieb:
> > Interesting question Wendy. The difference between hosting and holding
> > space is where my attention goes. Holding space by attention is only on the
> > space and what it requires. In hosting I attend to the beings inside the
> > space and what they need to thrive in the space.
> > Pat Black
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <we...@xe.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Mu
> >>
> >>
> >> ;)
> >>
> >> w
> >>
> >> On 7-Jul-10, at 8:47 AM, doug wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi--
> >>> In a recent post, http://chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/?p=2839 Chris
> >>> Corrigan says "there is no outside."
> >>>
> >>> Chris has got me thinking again of the interplay of hosting and holding
> >>> space.
> >>>
> >>> As I see it today, holding space means having a view towards the health
> >>> of the whole system that is in the room—a global view that is larger
> >>> than the participants might have. So it is not noticing themes, because
> >>> my experience is that the facilitator is not into the trees enough to
> >>> notice the paths in the woods.
> >>>
> >>> It is more that the facilitator is seeing that the woods is healthy for
> >>> all the beings there—little animals and large, birds and insects and
> >>> flowers and trees. Of course that is an impossible task, since no one is
> >>> managing the forest. The forest self organizes itself.
> >>>
> >>> So we pick up the coffee cups and candy bar wrappers and pop cans that
> >>> people semi-consciously leave behind and we let those who are active in
> >>> the conversations know by our invisible presence that they are doing
> >>> things exactly right: whatever happens....
> >>>
> >>> So can this be done from within the system? Is there any outside? Is
> >>> there not a certain hubris in thinking we can stay above and outside and
> >>> hold the space...what? Together?
> >>>
> >>> How is hosting related to holding space? When can the space holder enter
> >>> the conversation swirling about?
> >>>
> >>> :- Doug.
> >>>
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