Lisa Heft wrote : One less thing, and one more remembrance that telling a fact
does is not the thing that makes a person feel it. Being in an experience does.
Then HO wrote:
The 5th Principle could help us to avoid missing all the truly great Open Space
of the world simply because they don’t have a “proper” venue as we might
understand “venue.” So if you were to ask was Tahrir Square an Open Space I
suspect the immediate answer from a lot of people would be No. After all the
venue was not pre-determined, people did not sit in a circle, and for sure you
could not find the facilitator. Case Closed.
The differentiation between OSTech and OS Spirit (often used explicitly a while
ago, but apparently melting together for the last couple of 100s of postings)
seems to be useful if I connect these thoughts:
From the OS Spirit "point of view" used by Lisa here:
Open Space is where you
feel/perceive/experience it (so: if you are able & open yourself: it is
everywhere)
From the OST "point of view" used by HO in your playful way to point out the
contradiction: Venue, pre-determined, circles, facilitator,...
So the way I see it now is: all such efforts that are usually limited to short
periods of time, which I had the luck to experience in my life like ...
OST,
freedom-movements,
reaching a level of dialogue without domination (see: Habermas) e.g. in
advanced group-dynamics' trainings
sucessfully analyse resistence structures (see: Freud),
free schools
meditation
?
?
?
... they all can become gateways on the voyage towards something that may not
be limited to a short period of time: sustainable OPEN SPACE
And maybe I did not make it clear in my first posting: although I do not need
the 5th principle for explicitly facilitate OST, HOs 5th-principle idea
reconnected me mentally to the many places/spaces I had "accidently" and
luckily gone to during my life exactly when the context/conditions/karma? for
opening was in place. And it was so evident, that I could not believe that I
had not seen it before. I only had to accept that the experience spaces in my
head that I had labeled as "temporary bubbles of freedom" melted together with
"Open Space" this morning.
So thank you for this multi-logue on a (non-?) fifth principle of OS(T)
And here comes an invitation. I would be very interested to get also your ideas
and creativity for completing the "list of OS gates" that I opened above.
MY QUESTION IS:
"WHAT OTHER
GATEWAYS ON THE VOYAGE TOWARDS SUSTAINABLE OPEN SPACE HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED OR
KNOW OF?"
Bernd
P.S. Decision taken meanwhile: I WILL facilitate an open space as second part
of the workshop "Playing with the Waves (of Change)" in two weeks near Ephesos
in Turkey (see below).
P.S. 2 Sorry for the last 2 long postings, but when new ideas are whooshing
around in my head I am not able to express myself in a few clear words, its
always mud and gold together
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