wow, larry, you are taking on a big bite of nonfiction after a two year diet!
i am fascinated by deacon's ability to conceptualize an entirely material evolution into life and then into consciousness - some breakthroughs in thinking that are quite potent. (even tho i don't agree that's all that is happening.) btw there are some interesting shorter articles on Deacon's website including one coauthored by Ty Cashman who is a favorite of mine. jeff On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Larry Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: > Skye: You said “Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed system.” I > believe that there in fact is no such thing as a closed system – we may try > with sense of “purpose” to make a good container, but everything, every > entity interacts with its environment as it “concresses (sp?)” – comes into > being (Whitehead). I do believe in the power of “purpose” to affect > material reality. I’ve just started reading Deacon’s “Incomplete Nature: > How mind emerged from matter” which tries to understand purpose and > direction from a scientific perspective. Don’t know where its going yet but > Jeff Aitkin said it was good and he is on a very interesting healing > journey. > > > > I have only read novels for two years so this journey is interesting to me. > > > > Wozniak tried to give the Apple mother board away to open systems – Jobs > said “no way” and created a company that has become the biggest financially > in the world. > > > > Interesting. > > > > Larry > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skye Hirst > Sent: December-03-11 4:13 PM > > > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space > > > > Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography. I'd like to > explore your question of how does what he did in his self-centered ways, > lead to such productivity and quality of result? Where is the Open Space > and self-organization? Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed > system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only be > himself. His "subjective aim" was in focus for him within himself and he > and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with that > vision. There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose" and it is > contagious I believe. it also acts as inspiration for others to act in ways > that call out "being on purpose/true to yourself" insisting on what is > truth for your being nature. But there is an even deeper nature that > provides coherence for this process and that's just being discovered - there > are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what Harrison and > so many here speak and point to that they experience through Open Space > processes. > > > > When people are called together under these conditions, something wonderful > can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in the words of > Whitehead. This is the creative process of life becoming = it connects us > to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act in concert > with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be joined with > others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater purpose that > has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see in the Apple > environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant in the vision. > If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek together." There is a > value sense of satisfaction as we fulfill our own uniqueness of being and > sense the connection to a greater whole. Any environment that creates such > conditions for life - is as Harrison says, "how life works if we let it." > > > > Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs new > language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of talking > about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how life > creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out > beautifully that "process IS reality" - a value sensing process and as we > share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover hopefully the > bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and > connectedness. Thanks for reading this far, Skye > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote: > > > > > > I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last > chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his successful > life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT product > systems. > > Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative design and > mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app > developers who can count on a consistent operating system across products. > This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you know will > work on phones iPad or iPod my son says. > > Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond > anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create the > products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the details of > his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term assh*le > applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who did not > appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was open to > learning as long as it came to be his idea. > > His vision “opened space” for those who would work at their top level to > realize it. When they didn’t he was mean and spiteful. And many didn’t > understand his view of good design together with good technology. He was > used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided the > hubris to move forward. The space of silicon valley with its nutrient rich > environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it possible for > Apple to get going. His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the self > development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his own > vision. > > > People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and became > followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it stumbled. It > certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior products that > then set the model for the others to come. Will Google and Microsoft be > able to catch up? > > As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the > integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone and > project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical > know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are more > costly. I think the book is a great read . > > So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at the > beginning – maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy leadership to > emerge? > > Larry > > > > > > Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation > > Toronto, Ontario, Canada > > [email protected] 416.653.4829 http://www.spiritedorg.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > Skye Hirst, PhD > > The Autognomics Institute > > A Living World-view; the nature of reality > > > > [email protected] > > www.autognomics.org > > Twitter @autognomics > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
