Thanks Michael,
I found it. For some reason I couldn't find it before. So I used the
search function in an electronic version I had access to. But for some
reason in most of the quotations I found, some of the words had been
changed and therefore I was searching for the wrong phrase.
Thanks a lot for helping me out.
Bui
On 18/01/2012 2:42 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Bui,
its on page 19 of "On Dialogue", Routledge Classic, 1996, ISBN10:
0415336414, available on amazon for between 12 and 16 Euro...
introduced by Senge and Nichol.
cheers
mmp
On 18.01.2012 18:36, Bui Petersen wrote:
Thanks Birgitt,
I'm mostly interesting in what is universal (i.e. option 2.) As someone
who has moved around a fair amount myself, I can certainly identify with
your experience.
I am particularly inspired by the following quote attributed to David
Bohm (supposedly from "On Dialogue" but it is not it my copy of the
book):
/From time to time, (the) tribe (gathered) in a circle. They just
talked and talked and talked, apparently to no purpose. They made no
decisions. There was no leader. And everybody could participate. There
may have been wise men or wise women that were listened to a bit more
– the older ones – but everybody could talk. The meeting went on,
until it finally seemed to stop for no reason at all and the group
dispersed. Yet after that, everybody seemed to know what to do,
because they understood each other so well. They could get together in
smaller groups and do something or decide things./
Bui
On 18/01/2012 12:33 PM, Birgitt Williams wrote:
One consideration...it is important to distinguish whether you wish
to focus
on
1.what is different among different cultures
OR
2.what is universal and the same among the entire human race
I personally spent years attempting to understand what was different
and
spent three years of training as a cultural interpreter. I finally
figured
out that unless I was deeply 'in' a culture, I could not really
understand.
I find this even in my own life. I was born in Germany, yet because
I moved
to Canada when I was two, I don't totally understand the German
culture or
forms of dialogue. Because I was an immigrant into Canada, I also
never came
to fully understand the Canadian culture of ways of dialogue. And
then I
moved to the southeastern USA some years ago and still am finding my
way
after 12 years to understand this culture and the nuances of
dialogue. I
have spent some considerable time in India and in Africa...and the same
findings.
So, after all of my investigations to the cultural differences, when
I was
putting together our workshop modules, I focused on what is
universal, what
is the same. We are all members of the human race and what is the
same is in
us all.
Blessings,
Birgitt Williams
www.dalarinternational.com
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I intend to have them do that but it is part of an academic course. So
it is required to be at least a little bit academic. Thanks for the
suggestion though. :)
Bui
On 17/01/2012 10:40 PM, doug wrote:
Bui--
Permit me to borrow the hat from the man and ask: Why have them read
about it and listen to someone talking about it? Instead you could
have
them do dialogue and then report out what it was like and what they
learned....
Or not....
<Handing hat back to the man>
:- Doug.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:23 -0330, Bui Petersen wrote:
Hi fellow OSers,
I have been ask to present a talk about on dialogue as part of
university course on Cross-cultural communication. I am thinking
that it
may be interesting to talk about dialogue and how some of the
approaches
we use are influenced by traditions from different cultures (e.g.
circles, OS marketplace, etc.). The intent to assign reading for the
students prior to the class, but it is proving to be a bit more
difficult than expected to find articles on this topic. There are
lots
of sources on how people from the "west" have gone to other
countries to
do dialogue, but I have found very little describing traditional
dialogue, neither theory or practice. (one likely problem is that
what I
am referring to as "dialogue" may well be called something else in
the
literature).
Does anyone have any suggestions? Theoretical sources are OK too.
Always grateful for the generous help from this list. Thanks!
Bui Petersen
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