Michael -- Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have read the piece and would recommend that others do as well. Particularly if you are a "consultant" (old hand or just starting). I never did anything quite the way described, but close -- and having read this piece, and should I ever "go back into the trade" -- believe me this would be the way to go.
Read it! -- http://www.sanneroemen.nl/wp-content/uploads/071107_nrc_en.pdf Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Dr. Potomac, MD 20854 USA 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) Camden, Maine 20854 Phone 301-365-2093 (summer) 207-763-3261 www.openspaceworld.com www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael M Pannwitz Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 4:05 PM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] Fees for OS conferences? A colleague from the Netherlands just included herself in the Open Space World Map... as I took a look at her website , this is what I found > Working outside the hourly invoicing box The pros and cons of allowing > your clients to determine your fee afterwards Here is the full text > http://www.sanneroemen.nl/wp-content/uploads/071107_nrc_en.pdf Its not how I have done it but there are some similarities, I suggest to my client that they set my fee. This is a wide field, it seems Greetings from Berlin mmp On 10.05.2012 20:52, Harrison Owen wrote: > Chuni, I might add that in talking with the client I find that the > following questions can be helpful. > > 1) How much is it worth to you to achieve the goal you have indicated > (whatever that might have been)? > > 2) How much would it cost to achieve that goal using any other > approach you can think of (just to create perspective)? > > Of course if they dont think it is worth anything there might be some > question as to Why bother? Or if they can think of a more economical > way to achieve their intentions Go for it! > > ho > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 20854 > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > www.openspaceworld.com > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go > to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.or > g > > *From:*[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Harrison Owen > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:15 PM > *To:* [email protected]; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Fees for OS conferences? > > Chuni I think it depends totally on the client and the situation. > When I do something like an OSONOS I simply attempt to cover costs. > Most recently with the OSONOS by the Sea (well not that recently as > that was > 3 years ago) the fee was $25. That paid for space and coffee/donuts. A > local church provided the space, and all meals and accommodations were > handled by the individual participants. Actually we ran a considerable > surplus. So with the surplus, I doubled the Churchs fee, as it was > ridiculously low, and then sent $500 to the Access Queen. However if > we were talking about a major corporation holding a serious working > conference (2 ½ days) on a critical issue the money can and (I think) > should be equally serious. Of course it is all coming out of a common > corporate pot, but in a recent case I think it probably came out to > $1500-2000 per participant. For whatever it is worth, Ive never had > an argument with anybody in terms of the value received. For the > corporation the tab was probably close to $450,000, but considering > what they achieved, and compared to how much it could have cost had > they done it any other way (traditional committees over a year or two) > that price was bargain basement LOW. > > Any help? > > ho > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 20854 > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com> > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go > to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.or > g > > *From:*[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:31 PM > *To:* OSLIST > *Subject:* [OSList] Fees for OS conferences? > > Hello All, > > I'd like to find out if anyone has charged the attendees for coming to > the OS convening. > > If so, how do you do it? On what basis do you determine the fees? > > Thank you. > > ChuniLi > > New Jersey > > 732-306-4002 > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe > send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany ++49-30-772 8000 [email protected] www.boscop.org Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 388 resident Open Space Workers in 66 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
