Joaquim – Marvelous question: “Is it better to open a little space, or to open 
no space at all? :-)” And I think the answer is pretty obvious but for reasons 
having little to do with Open Space Technology as a process. Life (at least my 
life) requires the opening of time/space. When all of that closes, so does 
life. Some people feel that they are protecting life when they put it in a box. 
I find just the reverse. The greatest gift I have to offer is respectful 
time/space. Of course I don’t own it, so speaking of it as a “gift” to others 
is a stretch, but I think we all recognize the wonder and power of being the 
presence of one who is graciously spacious. You know the sort I am talking 
about – somehow they call forth the very best in us, but not in the manner of a 
prescription (we must, should, ought). We are invited to be everything we can 
be, and we find in the warm presence of that person the essential time/space 
for that “everything” to manifest. I suspect this may be the ultimate 
expression of Love: the challenge to reach our fullness, and the acceptance of 
whatever that form our fullness may take. Not just challenge, not just 
acceptance – but both together, simultaneously, paradoxically, dialectically. 
That creates radical space/time, I think – the essential conditions for life.

 

We do this all the time. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. And some people 
seem to be able to do it more often and easily. A few manage to do it all the 
time. The clock doesn’t seem to have much to do with the situation, for 
Gracious Spaciousness apparently operates outside of time. It might even create 
human time/space?

 

So opening space/time first last and always – whenever, however, wherever, with 
whomever…

 

YES!

 

And then we come to that curious thing we call Open Space Technology, which as 
far as I am concerned is nothing but a special application of “Gracious 
Spaciousness.” Over the years we seem to have developed a pretty clear sense 
about useful time periods. Nothing cast in concrete, but less than 4 hours 
feels pretty cramped and more than 2 ½ days is too much of a good thing. But 
the Goldilocks (just right) time always depends… on the group, the issues, the 
environment, etc. And finding that Goldilocks moment is in part a function of 
our (as facilitators) Gracious Spaciousness, I think. We need to challenge the 
group to be everything they could be, which is almost inevitably several steps 
beyond their comfort zone. Sometimes we even have to ask some pointed questions 
such as – “Do they really have such a low opinion of themselves that the future 
of their organization (life and work) is only worth a few hours?” They alone 
can decide, and we of course, will have to accept their decision – even if we 
also have to say that given their decision, we really don’t think Open Space is 
the way to go.

 

Harrison 

 

 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joaquim Baptista
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 6:57 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSList] Any experience with short OST

 

Greetings,

 

All I've done were 5 short OST meetings plus a longer but biased OST track at a 
conference.

 

I understand that these short meetings were not ideal, they did not lead to 
strong conclusions. On the other hand, it would have been impossible to ask 
parents that were strange to each other to commit more time to meet.

 

These meetings lasted between 2h and 4h. They were still quite effective in 
opening space between people, having them find out that there are others like 
them, and identifying shared concerns that deserve further attention.

 

While people usually complain that there was not enough time to talk, everyone 
loves it. And I strongly believe that, if I invited them to talk for 1.5 days, 
they would just refuse.

 

When the meeting ends, its their responsibility to continue talking elsewhere, 
if they wish to do so. Sometimes, they do.

 

Is it better to open a little space, or to open no space at all? :-)

 

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Koos de Heer <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Catherine,

My experiences with really short OST meetings are mixed. My experiences with 
OST meetings for demonstration purposes are not so good. Only spectators, no 
play. So I only do an Open Space meeting if there is a real issue to be 
discussed by passionate people.

A short Open Space meeting is at least 3 hours when I do it. I do not agree to 
anything shorter. My favorite is a day and a half. There seems to be a tendency 
that organizations do want the benefits of Open Space but have increasing 
trouble investing the time to make it possible. Sometimes I think that the 
biggest change we can offer is not the format of the Open Space meeting, but 
the idea to spend time on things, to stop measuring every minute against the 
KPIs of a balanced score card.

Having said that, a three hour meeting is much better than nothing at all. Key 
is to manage the expectations of the client. The benefits of a three hour 
meeting are certainly worthwile, but not way as good as those of a day and a 
half. If they are happy with the three hours, you can tell them they have seen 
nothing yet and there is much more where this came from.

Cheers

Koos




At 00:19 11-6-2012, [email protected] wrote:

Hi, I did a 4-hour open space last year. It went really well.  People seemed to 
enjoy it and a lot came out of it but not as much as I would  have liked.  But 
everyone went away happy to have had the experience.  Best, Donna





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Subject: Re: [OSList] Any experience with short OST

From: Graydancer <[email protected]>

Date: Sun, June 10, 2012 3:48 pm

To: [email protected], World wide Open Space Technology email list

< [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >

My Open Spaces are usually a day (though we have meet & greets & sunday 
brunches to provide some wiggle room). They seem to work well. I was recently 
asked to do a 6-hour open space for about 350 people in Chicago. It went well - 
very well - but we had a LOT of time beforehand to prep the people through 
online forums, etc, as well as a lot of participants who had been to other open 
spaces.

That being said, with one or two exceptions, everyone there loved it. My only 
frustration was with people who said "No, I didn't go, it just sounded too 
disorganized." For some reason, the idea of something being self-organizing is 
just anathema.

I think shorter OS's can work...but I would never want to do one shorter than 
the 6 hours. Even that felt way too short. Good, but like a book that you 
really wish didn't end...

Gray

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Catherine Pfaehler <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I can only add that the only time I did such a short OST in order to 
demonstrate the methode did NOT lead to a client relationship. I’ve come to 
notice that even a 5.5 hr OS-event is too short. We deprive people of the 
experience of what it is like to have ENOUGH time for their thoughts and ideas 
and actions and projects to actually emerge if we agree to such short periods 
of time.

 

 

Thank you for asking, Catherine C., and thank you for your answer, Harrison!

 

Love, Catherine P.

 

Catherine Pfaehler

Burckhardtstrasse 2

CH - 3008 Bern

+41-(0)31-536 05 31 <tel:%2B41-%280%2931-536%2005%2031> 

 

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Von: Catherine Corbaz [ mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 

Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012 19:20

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Betreff: Re: [OSList] Any experience with short OST

 

Dear Harrison

of course I'll trust you. You put the right words on my inner feelings and gave 
me strong arguments to tell the sponsor, if needed. Your point to do do it 
after and let emerge an opened discussion, is a perfect idea.

 

Thanks a lot,

 

Catherine

 

Le 10 juin 12 à 18:07, Harrison Owen a écrit :



Catherine – I know you have maade your plans. And Plans can change. Here are 
some thoughts that might move the changes along… First – The best Presentation 
on Open Sn Space is “Do it!†Nothing else comes even close. Second – Doing 
a Presentation about Open Space before an Open Space creates all sorts of 
difficulties, none of which you want. No matter what you say, no matter how 
good you are – whatever you say will just confuse people. If they have never 
experienced Open Space, they simply won’t believe you. And if they have had 
the experience, they don’t need the explanation. Even worse, a Presentation 
up front will inevitably put the people in a “head†mode, thinking about the 
process. They will be wondering about other processes, potential modifications, 
what “they†say in the literature. All good thoughts, but definitely not 
needed at the onset of an Open Space. Just get on with the business, do what 
comes naturally, and forget about the process. After all it works all by 
itself. No help needed. And don’t try doing “just a little bit of Open 
Space†It is always frustrating, because just about the time you get rolling, 
it is time to stop. If these people really want to Celebrate – Go for iit and 
make sure they have plenty of time/space for the occasion!

 

And then if they really want a Presentation, do it at the end. I assume you 
will have a closing circle and after the people have shared their comments, ask 
them by way of summary “What did you notice particularly about our time 
together that was strange, new, surprising, different? I think you will find 
that the People as a whole will create a marvelous presentation, and of course 
you can comment if you care to.

 

Trust me. You won’t be disappointed.

 

 

Harrison

 

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7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

USA

 

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Camden, Maine 20854

 

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From: [email protected] [ 
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<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Catherine Corbaz

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:31 AM

To: World email list wide Open Space Technology

Subject: [OSList] Any experience with short OST

 

Dear OS-friends,

I’ve been invited to moderate an OST for the 10th birthday of a studying 
program of a high Engineering and business school. It is called Human System 
engineering.

The purpose is to celebrate the anniversary and to make an OST in order to 
collect ideas, projects of the students to allow this program to live further. 
The purpose is also to present OST as a method to work with collective 
intelligence , etc. Inviter people will be students and old students, the 
professorship will also be invited. 

 

At the beginning we spoke of a one day OST. After a first meeting with the 
preparation group, they proposed me to do something shorter, with a 
presentation about OST. I agreed with their suggestion. But i'll make my 
presentation as short as possible, with the message: the best presentation is 
to experiment it.  So I might have 1/2 more, who knows?

 

But i've never do such a short OST. So presently the agenda (in may head) look 
like:

 

- a short introduction (sponsor + OST introduction : 15’), 

- Market place&agenda (15’). 

- Two break-out sessions of 35 min. 

- closing circle (20') 

 

We expect 30-50 people.

 

Anyone with a similar experience. I remender reading something about a 1.5 
hours OST?

Any comment, remark, welcome.

 

NB: this OST is a short of follow-up of the french publication of Christine 
Kohler. 

 

Regards

 

Catherine Corbaz

Roseaux 20

CH-2503 Bienne

+41 32 323 38 43 <tel:%2B41%2032%20323%2038%2043> 

+41 79 794 38 55 <tel:%2B41%2079%20794%2038%2055> 

https://sites.google.com/site/catherinecorbaz/

 

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