Once upon a time, a monk left his monastery for a walk and settled under
a shady tree to read his favorite novel. As he sat there he was
completely enthralled by a bird singing his very best song. When the
bird flew off, Peter, thats this monks name, closed his book and
strolled back to his monastery. On knocking, the door opened and a
brother he had not seen asked him what he wanted. Peter answered, that
he was Peter and just returned from a short walk. The fellow that opened
let him know that there was no Peter in the monastery. Peter insisted to
be let in so the brother called the Prior who, upon thinking a bit, did
remember a story of a Peter that left the monastery for a short walk 300
years ago and never showed up again.
Here you have a fat NOW, a birds song of a couple of minutes expanding
into 300 years. Plenty of NOW in this now with loads of past and future.
Greetings from bright sunshine in Berlin with icy winds, still.
mmp
On 24.03.2013 23:28, Harrison Owen wrote:
It is only a manner of speaking. If your NOW is big enough it includes
what we (used to) call Past and Future. So how is that for esoterica?
ho
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Harrison
Yes, and more...
The "now" becomes enormous because it forms part of the time organism -
a living organism because past, present and future all live vibrantly
within it. This is no mere theory. Now is where we are present, but
before and beyond are where we are also alive.
But no. The past isn't over. It is both before and before. The past lies
up ahead. The past is full of seeds but also it contains keys. The past
is a living picture playing in and out of the now. As does the future.
History is the high-story.
Practically (and this is where a bias towards one dimension limits the
opening of space)...
What do we wish had happened?
What would have happened if ... ?
What happened ?
These are not questions for a past that is over and done with. These are
questions for the future "before us".
Whatever happened is not the only thing that could have. Whatever
happened is one of my things that could happen.
Dive into that - if only for the game of it!
We can live many lives and still not get close to the real vistas of
space and time that wait to be opened. Potential lives in the whole time
organism, not only the now. There's something special about now, but its
not the whole story!
Go on, imagine you might have missed a trick...!
Paul
On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Harrison Owen wrote:
Paul – “And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space
not only for the future but for our whole "time organism".” I like it.
If only because I wrote a book, “Expanding Our Now.” The idea is simple,
maybe simple minded. But it goes like this: The past is over, the future
hasn’t happened yet. What we got is NOW. And how big can we make that? I
don’t know, but it is a lot bigger than most of us think – which is
usually measured in nanoseconds. A very small NOW. – But when we Open
Space, my experience is that NOW becomes enormous. Well past
chronometric measurement. Or something.
ho
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Perfectly described, Koos!
And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only
for the future but for our whole "time organism".
It is also why, if there must be "action planning" is need not only come
at the end!
Time is linear, circular and many other things as well.
Warm rushes
Paul
On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Koos de Heer wrote:
Paul,
I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing
people about the political and economic situation there. He reports
that some people would say: “We can’t predict the future – after all,
you have no idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back.”
The metaphor of the way time flows there is the opposite of ours. In
Western Europe, we picture ourselves as looking to the future and having
the past behind our backs. Apparently in Greece, the people experience
the timeline so that the future is coming from behind and the past is
disappearing in front of them. So they are looking at the past and not
seeing the future. Which makes sense; we think we look at the future,
but what are we looking at? Only images, because we don’t know what it
will be. Which also leads to the question whether our images from the
past are correct, but that is another story.
This leads me to wondering if there might be cultures where time is
viewed as circular, which would make even more sense to me.
Koos
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David
There's a depth and warm texture to your model.
I would offer this:
You define vision this:
"what does it look like when it is done"
I believe that is only part of vision.
Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past,
present AND future, all playing into each other. As I said earlier -
what went before (past) is also before us (future, in front).
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