One more contribution on this topic... *9-11 The Great Manhattan Boatlif*t...*9 hours, 500,000 people rescued*!
An 11 minute video you will never forget ...Open Space? Self-organizing? http://www.youtube.com/embed/MDOrzF7B2Kg?rel=0 * * On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Suzanne Daigle <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Brett, David, Harrison, Chris, and Chris, Skye, Dan and others that > I'm missing, > > The original topic on the Federal Reserve (Brett) and all that transpired > on the OS list afterwards ( A time for questions) was so thought-provoking > and conversation rich. It led to a great "in the moment" Skype exchange > today -- one that was truly living in Open Space and not a doing Open > Space. The theme emerged naturally around the value of Questions and so > much more. It was enough to get us going. Real life experiences,client > situations, real issues and problems were discussed. So very much in 1 hour > or a bit more -- all from the comfort of our own home space. > > We truly reveled in our time together, able to see each other by Skype and > conversing as if we were seated next to each other in a circle. In some > ways it felt even more intense and connected than if we had been together > in person. There was room for laughter, for confusion, for digging deeper, > for perplexed frowns, for thumbs up aha moments, and just being with each > other. > > I did not take notes, maybe someone else did -- I wonder if we could ever > capture the deep learning and sharing that happened moment by moment. We > were five from 2 continents. It felt special! > > Thank you Tricia for initiating this wonderful Skype meeting every week. > I imagine that over time, it will grow and evolve in ways that we can't yet > conceive-- in a self-organized easy way! > > It truly was sheer delight to pick up on an OS topic that touched us > deeply and continue the conversation. I encourage you to check your > calendars and if you're free at noon Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday, > next week or another week. > > *Sign up ahead of time at : OS Marketplace <http://tinyurl.com/nxbndq8>* > *Include: *your Skype name if you have never attended an OS hotline Skype > or send a note to Tricia Chirumbole to make it quick and easy to join > whenever. > > Suzanne, an appreciative participant > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Skye Hirst <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would love to meet you on Skype conversation. This stream is soo >> rich. THanks for this long summary. Also what comes to mind is Claire >> Graves work (Sprial Dynamics) human history develops in spiraling >> pattern. Skye >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Chris Kloth >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Harrison, et al... >>> >>> I have been reflecting on your history piece since it was posted. It has >>> taken me down several paths that were both perplexing and energizing. >>> >>> First, being old enough to have experienced all those decades first >>> hand, the storyline certainly resonates with me. >>> >>> Second, the value of questions. One reason I was attracted to OST and >>> you some 20-ish years ago was that I had been struggling with finding >>> methodologies or frameworks within which to apply what I had been exploring >>> in David Bohm's work on dialogue and on "implicate order." Just as his >>> Nobel prize winning work in physics revealed, it was clear that what was >>> needed was a way to engage the paradox of complexity and simplicity in the >>> same space. Questions were/are key, as were/are multiple perspectives. I >>> quickly recognized the potential of OST to take me further down that path. >>> >>> Later, as I got to know you and others better, and began making OST an >>> important part of my work, your thinking/writing about spirit that became >>> more important to me than the methodology or process questions. One >>> important element of that work is the power of the story... the cultural >>> myths, the creation stories, etc. >>> >>> Which brings me back to the history piece. Something is in the wind, you >>> say. You also suggest that the questions vastly outnumber the answers. >>> Finally, you suggest we are at a turning point and that there is a sense >>> reminiscent of the sixties. In the spirit of Bohm's both/and thinking, I >>> couldn't agree more and have what may be another take. >>> >>> I think one aspect of the fifties story that helped create the >>> possibility the sixties was the Cold War. Yes, on one level we had a sense >>> of some of the answers and acted like we knew more. But on the other hand >>> there was also a sense of fear that there were powers and forces that were >>> beyond our control and comprehension...a real sense that the world could be >>> blown to bits in no time flat. >>> >>> It was 1962 when Bob Dylan said, "The answer, my friend, is blowin' in >>> the wind." In the context of Harrison's contrast of the 50s and 60s it now >>> strikes me as creating an interesting sense of movement: "THE answer" feels >>> very fifties and "blowin' in the wind" feels very sixties. The focus was >>> still on the answer, an answer, but chasing the wind we began to consider >>> the possibility of multiple answers. We started asking more questions, but >>> they were initially more confrontive and judgmental and more oriented >>> toward offering an alternative set of best answers...ours! >>> >>> Certainly there were some matters of justice that deserved confronting >>> and there were people plumbing the deeper questions and possibilities. As >>> you suggest, this energy propelled us into the 70s and 80s with all kinds >>> of questions and answers and options ans tools and mental models blowing in >>> the wind... some of it as hurricane force. >>> >>> The new rules you refer to were quite a relief for people after a >>> hurricane. Let me tie my boat back onto a dock and take a breath. Your >>> image of the dream of the 90s brings to my mind both a sense of breathing >>> for reflection or aspirational dreaming, as well as a sense of dreaming as >>> a way to avoid reality by creating illusions... Then, WHAM - Hello! Wake >>> up. Yes, 9/11 had some unique American attributes, but like the Cuban >>> Missile Crisis (also 1962), there were ripples throughout the world. >>> >>> I, too, recognize some similarities in the energy of the present moment >>> and the present generation and that of the sixties. I believe we are at >>> another turning point. The question that raises for me is whether this >>> means that those who say history repeats itself in cycles (the pendulum >>> story or the going in circles story) have it right. Or is it possible that >>> what we are seeing has similarities with the sixties but, because we learn >>> and advance in a direction, there are important differences worth noting. >>> >>> I say "Yes! Both are true." One of the most durable principles of early >>> childhood development is Piaget's Developmental Spiral. A spiral is >>> circular and also moves in a direction. Briefly, children go through cycles >>> of growth that can be faster (hurricane force, everything changes over >>> night) or slower (step by step) in the same person in different parts of >>> her/his life. These periods of growth are followed by periods of >>> integration and synthesis. During this period, as people make sense of the >>> growth, it is harder to notice what is happening. In healthy children (and >>> families and communities and institutions, and meeting methods and...) this >>> period is followed by another period of growth and a period of >>> integration... going around and around in an upward direction such that >>> each time around we notice both similarities and differences... >>> >>> ...which is one way to read the story you shared with us. >>> >>> >>> So where is all this going? >>> >>> >>> Storylines...myths...space...**questions...Spirit... >>> >>> >>> My question for David was intended to explore a question I think HO >>> refers to being in the wind on occasion: is it the use of the method (OST) >>> that leads to the change or is the change that is in the wind deeper and >>> broader and rooted in how the spirit of OST has the potential to bring to >>> life new possibilities? The question recurs on this list in various forms >>> periodically, but this is the first time I have known enough about a >>> situation being mentioned to ask a specific question. >>> >>> Brett asked about the Fed...David said something is being done...In >>> other work I do I have been in contact with people at the Fed and know >>> there is some cool stuff happening but have heard no mention of OST. One >>> very real possibility is that I just plain haven't heard about it...another >>> is that David knows about how the spirit of OST is influencing what's going >>> on at the Fed without the/an event. >>> >>> I am especially interested in this question because I have been working >>> with an early childhood collaborative for almost as long as I have known >>> Harrison. (By the way HO, Diane Bennett recently retired and remarried.) At >>> a particular point in time I introduced them to OST. It didn't take long >>> for them to make it the basis for all their annual planning retreats. It >>> crept into more and more of their meetings. Over time "it" morphed from OST >>> as a method to working in the spirit of OS. They must be doing something >>> right... people from all over the US and, recently from Russia, have come >>> to see what they are up to. What visitors soon realize is that these folks >>> don't know anything special about early childhood... what matters is how >>> they work together... their spirit. >>> >>> >>> These days we still use an explicit OST event for some purposes, but as >>> people retire or move to other jobs and others join the collaborative there >>> are people who work together there in the spirit OS without ever having >>> heard of "It." Eventually they hear their "creation story" and it includes >>> the principles and the law. It's in the culture. I suspect it is also "in >>> the wind" because when those people who leave turn up somewhere else in >>> early childhood they seem to take "it" with them. >>> >>> I have been looking for stories of sustained, long term change that goes >>> beyond the method to the spirit of OS. My hope is that maybe David knows >>> something about the Fed that might fit here. If others of you know similar >>> stories I would love to learn more. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shalom, >>> >>> Chris Kloth >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland >>> 254 South Merkle Road >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801 >>> ph 614-239-1336 >>> fax 614-237-2347 >>> www.got2change.com >>> >>> >>> Quoting Harrison Owen <[email protected]>: >>> >>> David Osborne's statement and Chris's question precipitated something >>>> in my >>>> head. Needless to say David can and should speak for himself. However >>>> from >>>> my relatively isolated corner of the universe (Maine) I have noticed a >>>> few >>>> interesting suggestions that something of a shift might be in the wind. >>>> Whether it will be sufficient to save Homo sapiens from ossification, >>>> only >>>> time will tell. >>>> >>>> One such suggestion in the increase of questioning. As a child of the >>>> 50's >>>> (and yes there really were human beings walking the earth in that primal >>>> time), my world was firmly described by answers. Everybody knew >>>> precisely >>>> how life should be lived. There were rules to be followed, and if >>>> followed >>>> success was assured. Of course there were deviants who were largely >>>> marginalized and suppressed, but WE knew the Answers... the right way. >>>> >>>> And then a funny thing called the '60s blew all that certainty away. It >>>> was >>>> at once terrifying, refreshing, and exhilarating. And one thing was for >>>> sure: The primacy of answers gave way to an avalanche of questions. It >>>> is in >>>> the nature of questions to open space. Answers close it. >>>> >>>> With all the fresh air of openness, the forces of creativity soared to >>>> the >>>> joy and terror of all involved. Space in all dimensions exploded, and >>>> the >>>> tight societies of Philadelphia and New York, in which I grew up, >>>> shattered >>>> to merge with insular rural communities, and make contact with strange >>>> creatures on The Other Coast. Strange new world! >>>> >>>> The 70's and early 80's possessed a rich nutrient openness. New >>>> stories, and >>>> the answers they purported to provide, popped up like mushrooms. Some >>>> were >>>> weird, some substantive, some technological and all of them creating as >>>> many >>>> new questions as the answers they supposedly offered. Thrilling! >>>> >>>> But as the 80's ended and the 90's arrived it seemed that the age of >>>> answers >>>> were settling more than a few of the questions. Author's could write >>>> knowingly about "New Rules"... and while there was a breath of novelty >>>> it >>>> seemed the rules (answers) were known. >>>> >>>> The 90's slid by with almost dream like certainty. At least that's how >>>> it >>>> seemed to me. The Markets were up, America ruled. Some were even >>>> suggesting >>>> that the Age of Aquarius had actually begun! I guess there were still >>>> some >>>> questions, but none that we couldn't handle with the right Process or >>>> Procedure. And if not today, then tomorrow. So ended the Millennium. >>>> >>>> The New Millennium rolled in as predicted. Surprise! But in a funny way >>>> it >>>> seemed pretty anti-climactic. To be sure there were lots of parties, >>>> fireworks, speeches, the usual turn of the Millennia Fantasies. But at >>>> the >>>> end of the day it was pretty much more of the same... Until a bright >>>> clear >>>> day in September. September 11th to be exact. Maybe this was just a >>>> turning >>>> point for those of us in the USA. But I do believe, as I listen to my >>>> friends and colleagues from around the world -- we were all there. >>>> Doubtless >>>> with different feelings and interpretations. But for better, for worse, >>>> for >>>> richer, for poorer... it was a very different world! >>>> >>>> How different, we are only just beginning to understand. And for the >>>> first >>>> time in some long time -- the Questions vastly outnumber the available >>>> answers. This is a Turning Point. And a wonderful one, I do believe. >>>> When we >>>> as a species are compelled to sit in that really uncomfortable and juicy >>>> moment created by truly profound questions, the Space is truly OPENED. I >>>> think that is where we are at, and best of all I see lots of new faces >>>> rising to the bait. Call them "Millennials" or whatever... but it is >>>> every >>>> bit as exciting as the "60's" and we may or may not survive to tell the >>>> tale. But that has always been true. >>>> >>>> Harrison >>>> >>>> >>>> Harrison Owen >>>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> USA >>>> >>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) >>>> Camden, Maine 04843 >>>> >>>> Phone 301-365-2093 >>>> (summer) 207-763-3261 >>>> >>>> www.openspaceworld.com >>>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >>>> OSLIST >>>> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.**org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-** >>>> openspacetech.org<http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: >>>> oslist-bounces@lists.**openspacetech.org<[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.**openspacetech.org<[email protected]>] >>>> On Behalf Of Chris Kloth >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:15 PM >>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; David Osborne >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Federal Reserve Employees Survey >>>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> I wonder if you could share a little more about what is going on >>>> already. I >>>> have had conversations with Fed officials in San Francisco and Cleveland >>>> and, while they are doing some things I am very interested in and >>>> impressed >>>> by, I have yet to see evidence of OST. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Shalom, >>>> >>>> Chris Kloth >>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland >>>> 254 South Merkle Road >>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801 >>>> ph 614-239-1336 >>>> fax 614-237-2347 >>>> www.got2change.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Quoting David Osborne <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Yes Brett. Being Done. >>>>> >>>>> Consider looking beyond the reporting....to the fact that space has >>>>> been opened for this to be shared and talked about. What is in the >>>>> news is not always the best reflection of what is actually happening. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> David Osborne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.change-fusion.com | [email protected] | 703.939.1777 On >>>>> Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Brett Barndt <[email protected] >>>>> >wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can the OST community perhaps help here? It is a sad state of affairs >>>>>> in which we all have a stake. Even citizens of the world have a stake >>>>>> in this dysfunction owing to the interconnected nature of the global >>>>>> economies, our livelihoods, and well-being. >>>>>> >>>>>> The appointees, and congress by association, should not be permitted >>>>>> to let it go on this way any longer. People are dying out there with >>>>>> higher poverty, food insecurity, mortality, and suicide rates as a >>>>>> result of this situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/**2013/08/28/federal-reserve-** >>>>>> employees-su<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/federal-reserve-employees-su> >>>>>> rvey_n_3826165.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Discourse and dialogue are the last thing that should be stifled by >>>>>> culture or any other dysfunction in an institution like this one. >>>>>> >>>>>> OST and an open process of multi-stakeholder engagement is of course >>>>>> part of the solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> This seems like it should be well within our rights to insist upon at >>>>>> this moment in time. We are stakeholders. 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