Hi John, Thanks for the balancing archetype, all very fair. Perhaps in either 
case there are prior questions emerging about where the impluse begins for a 
piece of work, perceptions of 'owner' of the inquiry and how that feeds its way 
into the locus of an authentically open space where all have that ownership for 
the duration, the way the values and intentions then get realised, etc. (also 
maybe we have a sidebar about national contexts, I have had more professional, 
business-like enocunters with the consultancy teams working out of academia, 
UK's institutions being very hybrid cultures and economy-driven these days...)


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I'm US. I think an equally strong argument could be made that university folk 
have pragmatic concerns and cultural norms that are more aligned with tenure 
and publication than helping an outside organization with its own questions and 
its own pragmatic concerns. At least that has been my experience. They are 
often unprepared to support the real work of a non-academic institution in many 
ways (type of research, means of engaging people collaboratively, timeliness of 
reporting, type of products, language, capacity to be situated within 
decision-making processes, degree to which their research has "catalytic 
validity," etc.).

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:10 AM, ANNE BENNETT <[email protected]> wrote:


I agree the 'researcher' role is never 'non-participant' even s/he believes 
they are. However, I would support (from a UK perspective at least) the 
involvement of the higher education sector over the consulting one - the 
economics of it and one of the primary products/motive of learning for its own 
sake are likely to be at least espoused and so can be put to test - as  
consultant of 30 years I greatly value the roots of policy and pratice that set 
out in academia, however commercialised that environment has to be these days. 
Wonder if John is US, Oz or elsewhere? Might make a difference
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>I don't know why you would need a university researcher to do this work. 
>Plenty of consulting organizations do really high quality ethnographic 
>research for organizational change initiatives. Some of us were trained in 
>graduate school in ethnographic research as a change strategy, even ways to 
>use it collaboratively with
 people in open space like settings to study their own organizations for the 
purpose of improvement. 
>
>Sent from John's iPhone
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>On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Michael Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone aware of Open Space being used to support Social Sciences 
>> Qualitative Research  in organisations?  I have an organisation that wants 
>> to work on a particular question (how to attract and retrain 'older' 
>> workers) and they want to work with a University to doing some evidenced 
>> based internal research on this question. It seems to me that the Sponsor 
>> could open up a space on the question with the university researcher being 
>> part of the circle (with me facilitating the Open Space). As well as dealing 
>> with any action plans that emerge from the day, the university researcher 
>> could then sit down with
 the Sponsor after the event
 and do some systematic analysis of the Book of the Proceedings to identify 
emergent themes and then decide how to design further research as required by 
the Sponsor. In effect the Open Space would be a broad brush 'step 1' in the 
research design. Of course all the normal conditions of Open Space would be 
encouraged - voluntary participation and as 
>mu
>> ch diversity in the room as possible. 
>> 
>> Anyone been involved in a project like this, particularly in the Health Care 
>> industry, collaborating with a university researcher?
>> 
>> Michael Wood
>> Perth, Western Australia
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