Thanks, Harrison, for your response to my question on 'boundaries', 
particularly your paraphrasing of my question - which was spot on.  One thing 
I've taken from this brief conversation is that although considering the 
boundaries can be useful, we also need to accept that boundaries are never 
entirely clear, always moving on a spectrum from clear to uncertain/murky and 
if we, as a sponsor or facilitator, get overly bound up with boundaries then we 
might have moved, once again, into being too controlling.

Michael Wood
Perth, Western Australia


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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:01:40 -0400
From: "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and boundaries
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It has been common for us to speak of Containers and Boundaries as somehow 
essential to Open Space. I can't quite find the place, but I do remember saying 
something like that myself, as in, "The role of the facilitator is to create 
the container..." It certainly made sense at the time, but I always felt a 
little uncomfortable with the image. Too mechanical, coercive... too something. 
And Michael has brought the subject up again. "So...here we have a situation 
where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of complex flux and uncertainty. 
The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 'locum'
pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing pastor...etc." 
You might call it "messy boundaries" -- and he raises the question whether one 
should press ahead with Open Space, or wait until the "mess" is settled down. 
On the one hand, Michael "hunches" that one should press on -- Open Space. But 
his hesitation comes, I suspect, from the prior notion that fixed 
boundaries/containers are necessary for an effective Open Space. What to do?

Some thoughts (new ones for me): Containers are great for cooking soup, but are 
unneeded and maybe even problematical in Open Space. It is all about holding 
things together. In Open Space groups of people come together to deal with 
their issues. At the very least that would mean gathering in some common 
time/space, be that physical or electronic. It would seem that this co-location 
could be facilitated were some suitable "container" provided, presumably by the 
sponsor/facilitator. This certainly makes sense, and as a rough way of 
speaking, it seems to describe what is going on. But as I think about it, I 
think we may be missing a most important point. Coming together in Open Space 
happens because people care to come. And they continue their connection as long 
as they care to do so. (Law of two feet) 

>From the "outside" it might look as if they were held in place by a
container, but that is illusory. The actual dynamics are centripetal, the force 
is mutual attraction... people are "there" because they care to be there and 
not because they are contained by some external structure. In a word, we as 
facilitators really don't do a thing, and creating a container is the least of 
what we DON'T do. The people, from the beginning, do it all.


Of course, there are situations where groups come together under orders, 
mandates, whatever. And they are definitely "contained." It is also true that 
the tighter that container, the less likely self organization will take place. 
If true, providing a container is not only unnecessary but also destructive. In 
the name of Opening space, we effectively close it. Or so I suspect it might 
be. Just thinking...

Anyhow Michael, should my mental peregrinations lead anywhere useful, it would 
seem that your "hunch" was spot on. Forget the boundaries/container.
Just invite the space to open.

Harrison  

 

 






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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:59 PM
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Subject: [OSList] Open Space and boundaries

A Case Study....
One of the principles that I have generally worked with in Open Space is 
helping the client get clear on the 'boundaries' of the space that's being 
opened. For example, helping people who come into the space to know 'what up 
for grabs here and what isn't? What decisions have already been made?'

So picture this (purely hypothetical of course)....a church community in which 
the pastor has (in many peoples' opinion) run off the rails and the main church 
body is in the process of trying to dismiss him; the church is in compete 
disarray and completely conflict ridden, many people have left; the pastor who 
holds all the keys, banking passwords; church telephone connections etc etc, 
has taken legal advice and had hunkered down in the church owned house where he 
continues to hold the reigns of power (via some of his 'allies' in the church) 
despite not formally being the Pastor of the church anymore....

So...here we have a situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of 
complex flux and uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 
'locum' pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing 
pastor...etc etc.

So in terms of 'Opening Space', do we wait a bit longer until some of the legal 
boundaries are clarified, OR open space right away in the midst of the 
mess....my hunch is the latter, but any thoughts from anyone?

Cheers
Michael
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