Lurk!

Thomas


On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Marks Mcavity via OSList 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings to one and all;
> 
> I too am a happy lurker- though from time to time I have shared. I LOVE 
> reading the many entries- though I do “pass” from time to time. I am a near 
> octogenarian and do not need to push myself onto any market to facilitative 
> OS for a living. However, at least once a year some nice opportunity comes to 
> “step up to the plate”. I am privileged to host an “Art of Hosting” event 
> every year- and I deeply “hold space” when that is happening- and feel a 
> little proud that Chris, Catlyn, Tennyson & Teressa see in our open type 
> retreat centre an ideal place to have such events. They use our hour of daily 
> sacred silence with the greatest of respect, and the sacred act of cleaning 
> that we have is but a quiet extension of “gathering of the dirty cups’ that 
> Harrison often refers to.
> 
> Oddly, I use Facebook as a limited Open Space tool. I’m fortunate from my 
> international education career to have close to 2000 “friends” living in over 
> 100 countries (most of whom don’t know each other) and I often rather 
> naughtily share a good controversial article, song, picture, whatever and 
> wait for the responses. It is a delight- which I sometimes follow up with a 
> subtle introduction of who is speaking to who. Lots of fun. And I suspect 
> that the lurkers on these little micro- open spacers- take some good stuff 
> away.
> 
> When something is as good as Open Space (or the quality of chocolates that 
> one can buy on Bowen Island) I am an unashamed (& unpaid) marketeer 
> extraordinaire. On my deathbed, I might well be eating one of those 
> chocolates and mouthing off about Open Space. I trust that I will have your 
> blessings on both.
> 
> Seasons’ cheer;
> 
> Marks
> 
> Marks & Margaret McAvity
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> 604-328-4406 (Marks)
> 604-616-7260 (Marg)
> S50, C16, Galiano, BC, V0N 1P0
> www.rivendellretreat.org   
> 
> "Someday after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we 
> shall harness the energies of love; and then for the second time in the 
> history of the world, we will have discovered fire."
> 
> Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Koos de Heer via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dan,
>>  
>> Thanks for the invitation. I have grown from lurker to frequent contributer 
>> and back to lurker again.
>>  
>> I have done many Open Space events and for a few years I have been trying to 
>> co-ordinate a bit of community here in the Netherlands. So I consider myself 
>> knowledgeable enough to contribute. Often I have so many things to do that I 
>> don’t give myself the time to sit down and write a thorough, well thought 
>> reply. Now that I write this, I realize that it is not necessary to put the 
>> bar that high. It does not always have to be of academic quality – a simple 
>> sharing will do too. So this is a note to myself.
>>  
>> I have no problem voicing a different opinion and I have always felt 
>> respected and welcomed on this list. So my silence has nothing to do with 
>> feeling intimidated.
>>  
>> Much love 
>>  
>> Koos
>>  
>> Van: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Suzanne 
>> Daigle via OSList
>> Verzonden: donderdag 11 december 2014 15:54
>> Aan: Liz Martins; World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?
>>  
>> Dear Dan, thank you so much for posting this invitation. To see so many 
>> names that I don't really know pop up warms my heart. I feel the larger 
>> world presence. 
>> 
>> I know I don't fall into the "lurker" category.  Don't quite understand why 
>> as I had been a behind the scenes, in the shadows for most of my life and 
>> career.  Somehow Open Space gave me to courage to blurt instead of lurk 
>> and... blurt I still do. Often feeling that what I have to say may not have 
>> the depth of knowledge that others have but I'll self-admit to wearing my 
>> heart on my sleeve more and more as I grow older. It's because I've seen 
>> Open Space unlock so many hearts, giving so many the courage to speak up and 
>> step out though I also honor the huge value of silence and presence. All 
>> part of life and open space. 
>> 
>> When I started speaking out loud on this list, I felt uncomfortable, not 
>> wanting to draw attention to myself (still feel that way) but what surprised 
>> me most were the notes sent to me privately appreciating that what I had 
>> said, they felt too. Others encouraged me to keep writing. And then like 
>> others, at times I felt the disapproval (real or perceived), I felt insecure 
>> and it scared me but it also made me grow. I'm still growing inside. 
>> 
>> Our conversation this week with Dan and others  was imbued with deep sharing 
>> and questions. We spoke our own experience on the OS list and wondered about 
>> others...do we feel safe to speak our contrary views, do others?  If 
>> Harrison or those with long experience in Open Space speak their wisdom and 
>> it may not be ours, does it feel comfortable to speak up and counter those 
>> views? Is it shutting down the dialogue?   Does the OS list in its written 
>> form limit how we can push our own boundaries? Words  can be so limiting.  
>> Then we talked about Tricia's weekly Skype call which has opened a deeper 
>> and different  sharing.  We all agreed that the OS list is invaluable and so 
>> rich in so many ways.  
>> 
>> And then I mentioned "love" ... the deep love for many and with many in this 
>> community, a love that ultimately should create giant spaces for conflict, 
>> for discordant views, for harmony, for celebration, for a knot in our 
>> stomach or the  warm fuzzy feeling of gratitude. 
>> 
>> Yup... I still have that knot in my stomach right now hoping that all this 
>> doesn't sound too mushy or raw. Coming from the business world, it was not 
>> often welcome to bring the whole of us to work, the playful, the emotional 
>> and the serious side. I still feel that way but a lot less.
>> 
>> Enough said for today.  Big hugs to all, lurkers and non-lurkers.  We are 
>> all welcome here! And may we make room for many more and welcome them too. 
>> 
>> Suzanne
>> 
>> Suzanne Daigle
>> Open Space Facilitator
>> NuFocus Strategic Group
>> 
>> FL 941-359-8877
>> Cell: 203-722-2009
>> www.nufocusgroup.com
>> [email protected]
>> Twitter @Daiglesuz
>>  
>>  
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Liz Martins via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hey - I'm here too, not posting often, but taking in the gifts of this list 
>>> with much gratitude and passing them on in the world. 
>>> Liz
>>>  
>>> Liz Martins
>>> UK
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2014, at 11:29, Donnan Stoicovy via OSList 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Another lurker in Pennsylvania!
>>>>  
>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:10 AM, Christy Lee-Engel via OSList 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Daniel and everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't yet gotten used to the modern meaning of "lurker" and don't 
>>>>> ever identify as one. But I've been an OSList subscriber & 
>>>>> once-in-a-blue-moon post-er since 2003 (that is: since first being 
>>>>> life-changingly introduced to OST). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My active participation is in the listening/reading space at the rim; and 
>>>>> in being in deep friendship with people whom I first got to meet & then 
>>>>> came to love in Open Space somewhere or another; and in applying the 
>>>>> principles of practice in my own life a lot of the time. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's enlivening to see both the old hands and the new waves of Open Space 
>>>>> lovers in what I have alwayand the new waves of Open Space lovers in what 
>>>>> I have always experienced as a wide and welcoming space here on the 
>>>>> OSList.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christy Lee-Engel, ND, EAMP
>>>>> Director, Center for Mind, Body, Spirit and Nature
>>>>> BASTYR UNIVERSITY
>>>>> 
>>>>> Acupuncture and Naturopathic Medicine private practice: 206.708.7172
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is an illusion that we won’t be connected when this form ends - we are 
>>>>> always connected, beyond form ~ Angeles Arrien
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Chris was I think an early holder of the record for the largest OST. 
>>>>>> Until someone (Michael Pannwitz?) held a larger one.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I mostly lurk too, sometimes throwing in a note from the past. The early 
>>>>>> OT symposia and OSONOS conferences were joys I shall not forget. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Always appreciate new voices and perspectives as well.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: Chris Kloth via OSList 
>>>>>> Date:12/10/2014 6:29 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>>>>>> To: Daniel Mezick ,World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am a regular lurker.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For many years I was an active participant. I have been doing OST and  
>>>>>> OST inspired work continuously for about 20 years and used to be an  
>>>>>> OSONOS regular. A few of the active participants will remember me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Life got very complicated a number of years ago and, while I still do  
>>>>>> the work, I rarely feel comfortable adding my 2 cents. Occasionally  
>>>>>> offer my 2 bits... I guess that's what happens when interest accrues  
>>>>>> on my 2 cents over time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I lurk to feel some sense of connection to the OST community and to be  
>>>>>> inspired by your work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Shalom,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Kloth
>>>>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>>>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>>>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>>>>> ph 614-239-1336
>>>>>> fax 614-237-2347
>>>>>> www.got2change.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open  
>>>>>> > Space....and OSLIST....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ...the participants at the time were....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chuni Li
>>>>>> > Daniel Mezick
>>>>>> > Karen Davis
>>>>>> > Linda Stevenson
>>>>>> > Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>> > Paul Levy
>>>>>> > Peggy Holman
>>>>>> > Skye Hirst
>>>>>> > Suzanne Daigle
>>>>>> > Tricia Chirumbole
>>>>>> > Harold Shinsato
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not  
>>>>>> > actually be very easy to figure out...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of  
>>>>>> > members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply  
>>>>>> > with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with  
>>>>>> > highly authoritative voices.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually  
>>>>>> > be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Game
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we  
>>>>>> > talked about trying to find out.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST  
>>>>>> > threads periodically but does not actively participate ...  are you  
>>>>>> > willing to play a little game?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us  
>>>>>> > on the list are "regular lurkers".
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2. *...The rules* are:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to
>>>>>> >    the game, by replying...
>>>>>> >  * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All
>>>>>> >    you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's 
>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and  
>>>>>> > seeing how many reply over time.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press  
>>>>>> > [Enter] ...or...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks!
>>>>>> > Daniel
>>>>>> > -- 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>>>> >
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