Hi Michael,
I enjoyed reading your responses/reflections.
You made me think more
About the subtleties of working w/others, training, facilitating, & being 
humanly present.
The 7 or more inquiry helped me to process a good number of OS that I have 
fostered. 
I am grateful to be conscious now of what had been unconscious.
In the stream of things, will this matter or change anything?
Probably not.
Currently, I have Cancer, receive chemo, & appreciate all recall.
Peace & diversity of opinions,
Scott

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> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction 
> similar to paul levy.
> 
> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years.  my 
> management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space.  does 
> it count as 1 or 4?  
> 
> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting.  we also built a 
> weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with 
> minor technical questions.  do the meeting and the blog count as one 
> together, or two separate?
> 
> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.  
> she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on 
> every breath of her last week of life.  she never opened her eyes but over 
> that week completely relaxed her whole body.  was that open space?  what 
> about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?
> 
> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day.  our neighborhood has a lot 
> of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything.  i 
> offered my tools and experience.  if they never take me up on that 
> offer/invitation, does it count?  what if they just look for me at my desk in 
> our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog?  
> that could happen a lot.  must count as only once?  or maybe it doesn't count 
> at all?  
> 
> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open space 
> trainings i've done?  and what about all the things that happen after an 
> event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her 
> participants open later on?  
> 
> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every situation 
> where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other 
> situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently.  this is one 
> of the ways i understand that we live in open space.  
> 
> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly 
> focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough 
> invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up.  
> 
> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm 
> "training" has already been opening space in their own lives.  i don't think 
> anyone could come to this work without having already done it before.  it 
> would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience.  i 
> think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do 
> better.  so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.
> 
> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me.  not sure it's even 
> helpful.  i'm more interested in questions like:
> 
> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost?
> 2. what was the hook?  how did you notice it might have value?
> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?
> 4. what has happened since then?  what difference does it seem to make?
> 
> and so on.  a new game?  the next round?  maybe.  or maybe it's just the game 
> Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? 
> 
> michael
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
>  
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> 
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> 
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> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have also stopped counting :-)
>> But love doing it whenever it’s possible.
>> :o)
>> Eva
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>> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till 
>> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList 
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 
>>> people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007.
>>> 
>>> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and 
>>> still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Sent from Mailbox
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience 
>>>> being reported! 
>>>> 
>>>> So interesting ... so much depth.  Seems like something to ... explore....
>>>> 
>>>> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the 
>>>> OST-7 Game:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ========================================
>>>> The OST-7 Game
>>>> ========================================
>>>> 
>>>> The Goal:
>>>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 
>>>> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth 
>>>> of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?
>>>> 
>>>> The Rules:
>>>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with 
>>>> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to 
>>>> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair 
>>>> color, etc
>>>> 
>>>> Tracking Progress:
>>>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of 
>>>> OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or 
>>>> absolutely any other measures you like
>>>> 
>>>> Play:
>>>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer 
>>>> to just watch the game, that's OK too. 
>>>> 
>>>> ========================================
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Notes:
>>>> 
>>>> For this game, "OST" means something like this: 
>>>> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
>>>> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at 
>>>> least 7 of these events in your lifetime.
>>>> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays 
>>>> together, under the same subject
>>>> 
>>>> Steps to Play:
>>>> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]
>>>> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say
>>>> 
>>>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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