I feel like an “active reader“ and like a lurker alternately. Ingrid
Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS Institut für Entwicklungsberatung und Supervision Systemische OE-Prozessberatung und -Designs Executive-Coaching • Großgruppen-Interventionen Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover fon +49-511-336 03 30 • fax +49-511-336 03 47 mobile +49-172-5145179 [email protected] • http://www.institut-ebus.de Am 14.12.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <[email protected]>: > I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a > different tone. > > > The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a > message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed > about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just > to respond with a “present”. While he used the term lurkers, he included in a > larger framing (below). > > By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those responding > now. Ironically, Erik’s reflections on the roll call (also below) was his > last message to the list. > > > appreciatively, > Peggy > > > ROLL CALL: PRESENT >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a >> physical space, lacks the >> information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave. >> >> I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the folks >> with better things to do, >> anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would >> like to be noted as attending >> to this virtual space. >> >> I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a sense >> of scale to the ratio of >> talkers to the silent. >> >> Erik - present >> >> * >> > > > REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL > >> On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> 1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like to >> chime in. Feel welcome. >> >> 2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so far >> in the Roll Call. Your >> responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a >> fascinating moment where I >> didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a >> filibuster or something. >> >> I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present in >> this OSLIST conversation >> despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt >> like some kind of bedrock >> to me. >> >> The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of >> multiple >> conversations on the list. I have also started to hear some reflection from >> Michael (here: >> http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs) and >> so it seems >> appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call. >> >> I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context of a >> couple weeks of debate >> about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing >> values around online >> communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change. >> >> Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space >> principles help us both >> support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of OST >> and opening space? >> (http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9) >> >> So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who would >> like to reflect on the >> Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call in >> the light of recent >> debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of OS. >> >> Cheers, >> Erik >> >> * > * > > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > Executive Director > Journalism that Matters > 15347 SE 49th Place > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 425-746-6274 > www.journalismthatmatters.net > www.peggyholman.com > Twitter: @peggyholman > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity > Check out my series on what's emerging in the news & information ecosystem > > > > > > > > >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Given we are a community working with open space, >> >> therefore able or learning to be absolutely present >> and absolutely invisible >> >> isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ? >> >> >> Greetings Gerard, Denmark >> >> >> >> ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08: >>> Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that >>> listening isn't active participation. >>> My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made >>> visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active. >>> Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it >>> also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here >>> to expand. >>> I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years. >>> Reading most everything, but not so visible. >>> I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those >>> places aren't so obvious. >>> Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones. >>> Michael >>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear: >>>> "...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does >>>> not actively participate." >>>> The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify >>>> with it, and optionally play the game. >>>> Daniel >>>> On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged >>>>> the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences... >>>>> I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS? >>>>> Would love to listen to your thoughts on this.... >>>>> Carms >>>>> True happiness is a state of mind. >>>>> Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen. >>>>> Do not pursue happiness - practice it. >>>>> Sing, even if you do not sound good. >>>>> Smile, even when things go wrong. >>>>> Create happiness, and happy you will be. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> [1] >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>> Bio [2]. 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