Well, I have facilitated at least 7 OST events. and I enjoy the culture of reflections in the list, Ingrid
Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS Institut für Entwicklungsberatung und Supervision Systemische OE-Prozessberatung und -Designs Executive-Coaching • Großgruppen-Interventionen Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover fon +49-511-336 03 30 • fax +49-511-336 03 47 mobile +49-172-5145179 [email protected] • http://www.institut-ebus.de Am 15.12.2014 um 01:09 schrieb Juana Anguita via OSList <[email protected]>: > Hey! Im a "lurcker" and "learner" > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de via > OSList > Enviado el: domingo, 14 de diciembre de 2014 19:17 > Para: [email protected] > Asunto: OSList Digest, Vol 46, Issue 17 > > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > (Markus Wittwer via OSList) > 2. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Bhavesh Patel via OSList) > 3. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList) > 4. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Daniel Mezick via OSList) > 5. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Elwin and Joan via OSList) > 6. Re: ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform > (Elwin and Joan via OSList) > 7. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Tova Averbuch via OSList) > 8. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > (Tova Averbuch via OSList) > 9. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Arno Baltin via OSList) > 10. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (paul levy via OSList) > 11. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Koos de Heer via OSList) > 12. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Thomas Herrmann via OSList) > 13. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Eva P Svensson via OSList) > 14. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Michael Herman via OSList) > 15. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? (via OSList) > 16. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > (Francois Knuchel via OSList) > 17. Community Gardens (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList) > 18. Re: How do we define LURKER? (Peggy Holman via OSList) > 19. Re: Community Gardens (Michael Herman via OSList) > 20. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Suzanne Daigle via OSList) > 21. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > (Peggy Holman via OSList) > 22. Re: How do we define LURKER? (ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 01:19:30 +0100 > From: Markus Wittwer via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Lurk... > > Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList: >> Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and >> OSLIST.... >> >> ...the participants at the time were.... >> >> Chuni Li >> Daniel Mezick >> Karen Davis >> Linda Stevenson >> Lucas Cioffi >> Paul Levy >> Peggy Holman >> Skye Hirst >> Suzanne Daigle >> Tricia Chirumbole >> Harold Shinsato >> >> We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not >> actually be very easy to figure out... >> >> ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members, >> with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything >> close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly >> authoritative voices. >> >> ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually be >> kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in. >> >> >> The Game >> >> We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked >> about trying to find out. >> >> >> So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST >> threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you >> willing to play a little game? >> >> >> The Lurker Game: you are invited to play... >> >> 1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on >> the list are "regular lurkers". >> >> 2. *...The rules* are: >> >> * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to >> the game, by replying... >> * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All >> you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it. >> >> 3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and seeing >> how many reply over time. >> >> 4. ...Participation is *opt-in*. >> >> >> >> To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter] >> ...or... >> >> ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead >> >> We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops. >> >> Thanks! >> Daniel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 02:43:31 +0200 > From: Bhavesh Patel via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <caaho4421vvevkrngvc1ogmjcn0dfqnn8cuo6rhtzts8gv58...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ?Around 50... just finished one today in Kiev! > > > > On 13 December 2014 at 18:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >> *explore....* >> >> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7** Game* >> ======================================== >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 >> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of >> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair >> color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of >> OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >> absolutely any other measures you like >> >> *Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer >> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >> stays together, under the same subject >> >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say >> >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile >> Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >> Community. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/b3bcc73b/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:19:34 +0800 > From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList <[email protected]> > To: "'Daniel Mezick'" <[email protected]>, "'World wide Open Space > Technology email list'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hair colour is an interesting concept??seems to have been getting a lot > greyer with time?.. > > > > Yes indeed ? comfortably over 7 (if not massively so) and still going J > >> From 12 ? 250?street children to business executives > > > > All fun and all Open > > > > Oh yes ? it?s hot again here in Malaysia J > > > > Nigel > > > > Nigel Seys-Phillips > > Fulcrum Business Management Solutions > > Tel: +65 9639 2510 > > E-mail: [email protected] > > www.fulcrum.com.sg > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This communication contains information which is confidential and may also > be priveleged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If > you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any distribution, > copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify > us by return e-mail and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. > > > > Warning - Although Fulcrum has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > viruses are present in this e-mail, we cannot accept responsibility for any > loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or its attachments. > > > > > > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Daniel Mezick via OSList > Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:34 AM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > > > > Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. > > ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience being > reported! > > So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... explore.... > > So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: > > > ======================================== > The OST-7 Game > ======================================== > > The Goal: > Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 or > more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? > > The Rules: > If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with "hey" > ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to say, for > example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair color, etc > > Tracking Progress: > Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of > OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like > > Play: > 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer to > just watch the game, that's OK too. > > ======================================== > > > > Notes: > > * For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm > * This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've > Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. > * Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread > stays together, under the same subject > > > Steps to Play: > > * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] > * Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to > say > > > You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... > > Daniel > > -- > > > > Daniel Mezick, President > > New Technology Solutions Inc. > > (203) 915 7248 (cell) > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/> . <http://newtechusa.net/blog/> > Blog. <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/> Twitter. > > Examine my new book: <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/> > The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. > > Explore Agile Team <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> > Training and <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> > Coaching. > > Explore the <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/> Agile Boston Community. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/d8efbc1c/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:48:30 -0500 > From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]> > To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > I used have more hair, and it used to be blond. I think I have > Facilitated about 14 or 15 Open Space events in all since about 2009. > Since then I've also been responsible for helping arrange many others. > > > I am primarily interested in bringing the genuine spirit and practice of > Open Space into Agile adoptions. This is a huge uphill effort. Most all > Agile adoptions are authoritative top-down mandates of practices, > instead of inviting and engaging explorations of core principles. As > such, I think we might have a big opportunity there, to authentically > open up some space, and make a big impact. > > * I used to program computers and teach other folks how to do it for a > living. I have a software patent. > http://www.google.com/patents/US5872974 > * Lately I've been drawn to biology and the emerging science of > epigenetics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics > * I entertain many controversial theories, for example: > http://www.panspermia.org/intro.htm. > > > My Dad was always fond of saying: "you're really good at collecting some > very offbeat friends." > > That's certainly been my experience here... > > Daniel > > > On 12/13/14 8:19 PM, NigelSeys-Phillips wrote: >> >> Hair colour is an interesting concept??seems to have been getting a >> lot greyer with time?.. >> >> Yes indeed ? comfortably over 7 (if not massively so) and still going J >> >> From 12 ? 250?street children to business executives >> >> All fun and all Open >> >> Oh yes ? it?s hot again here in Malaysia J >> >> Nigel >> >> Nigel Seys-Phillips >> >> Fulcrum Business Management Solutions >> >> Tel: +65 9639 2510 >> >> E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> www.fulcrum.com.sg >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This communication contains information which is confidential and may >> also be priveleged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended >> recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note >> that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the >> information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in error please notify us by return e-mail and then >> delete the e-mail and any copies of it. >> >> Warning - Although Fulcrum has taken reasonable precautions to ensure >> no viruses are present in this e-mail, we cannot accept responsibility >> for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or its >> attachments. >> >> *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList >> *Sent:* Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:34 AM >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >> /explore..../ >> >> So: if you want, /you are cordially invited/ to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7 Game* >> ======================================== >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually >> Facilitated 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: >> what is the depth of practical OST facilitation experience across the >> entire membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like >> to say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, >> your hair color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, >> # of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, >> or absolutely any other measures you like >> * >> Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and >> prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> * For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> * This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> * Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the >> thread stays together, under the same subject >> >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> * Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like >> to say >> >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book:The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >> Agile Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community. >> > > -- > > Daniel Mezick, President > > New Technology Solutions Inc. > > (203) 915 7248 (cell) > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog > <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. > > Examine my new book:The Culture Game > <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the > Agile Manager. > > Explore Agile Team Training > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> > > Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141213/c7e33e43/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:05:35 +0000 (UTC) > From: Elwin and Joan via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > > <444791752.215425.1418526335304.javamail.ya...@jws100201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > too many to count > > From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:34 AM > Subject: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > > Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. > > ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience being > reported! > > So interesting ... so much depth.? Seems like something to ... explore.... > > So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: > > > ======================================== > The OST-7 Game > ======================================== > > The Goal: > Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 > or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? > > The Rules: > If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with "hey" > ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to say, for > example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair color, etc > > Tracking Progress: > Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of > OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like > > Play: > 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer > to just watch the game, that's OK too. > > ======================================== > > > > Notes: > > - For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm > > - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated > at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. > > - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread > stays together, under the same subject > > Steps to Play: > > - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] > - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say > > > > You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... > > > > Daniel > > -- > #yiv0824750254 p.yiv0824750254p1 {margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px > 0.0px;font:14.0px Arial;}#yiv0824750254 p.yiv0824750254p2 {margin:0.0px > 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:14.0px Arial;color:#0000ee;}#yiv0824750254 > p.yiv0824750254p3 {margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:14.0px > Arial;color:#1a37ee;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s1 > {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s2 > {color:#000000;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s3 > {text-decoration:underline;color:#0000ee;}Daniel Mezick, President New > Technology Solutions Inc. (203) 915 7248 (cell) Bio. Blog. Twitter.? Examine > my new book:? The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. Explore Agile > Team Training and Coaching. Explore the Agile Boston Community.? > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/af64a0a3/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:10:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Elwin and Joan via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Michael Herman <[email protected]>, World wide Open > Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform > Message-ID: > > <1648439348.209475.1418526634418.javamail.ya...@jws10057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Michael, > > You sir are truly a give of God. > > We all are in your debt. > Elwin Guild > > From: Michael Herman via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Patricia Haines <[email protected]>; World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [OSList] ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform > > I think it was about 1998 when murkier, who started the list at boise state > univ, suggested moving the list to a fancy up-and-coming platform called > egroups. It was a threaded discussion email site. In my memory, must be the > biggest and most energized conversation we ever had on this list. In the > end, it was rejected. And where is egroups today? > At openspaceworld.org, since 1999, we have had discussion forums, wiki, > wordpress group blog, but the I think the best thing we did was that I wrote > some "about OST" stuff and artur de silva suggested that it ought to be in > languages other than English. He volunteered to do Spanish andPortuguese, > others did their languages too. The tasks were simple and defined and got > done whenever anyone came forward and offered something. Now we have links > to intro material in 17 languages I think. All completely unplanned, > but?supported by just?keeping the site online.? > In the meantime, there is a Wikipedia page, a Facebook group, a Ning > community, the os hotline,?and any number of regional lists and groups and > meet ups of various shapes and frequencies.? > it's easy to design and build a site or platform, but yet another thing to > keep it going and up to date. And I don't think we can?build anything and > expect it to both replace an established community center and also grow past > it, succeeding where every past effort has not.? > At the same time, none of those prior offerings really set out to replace > anything, I think. They all just offered something else. And that is an > approach that seems very open spacey to me, to just do something, try > something, offer something and see what happens. It might displace > everything or nothing, but that won't matter. It's the offering, I think, > that keep us going.? > I'm glad to offer sub domain space at openspaceworld.org for anything that > wants building and trying. Done this with many language wikis over the > years.? > I'm also getting ready to cleanup at openspaceworld.org, so anyone who wants > to help think and do about that is welcome. It's the one big site/platform > we have that's completely unconstrained by the structures imposed by service > companies like Facebook. So we can do anything we want there to tie all the > other things together, as long as we also find a way to maintain past > contributions.? > I always keep looking for ways for openspaceworld.org to virtually > disappear, into just a set of links, something michael pannwitz suggested to > me when the site was still just six months old, and in that way to suggest > and?demonstrate?that os is much bigger than any of these platforms.? > Michael > > > > > On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Patricia Haines via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please don't replace this listserv with something complicated! > > Level Green Institute: fostering just & sustainable community through > education and the arts > On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:35 AM, Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear All,And what ifwe set a team to design, develop, deliver and maintain > our new wonderful OSTLIST web platform,which will be up to the requirements > to replace this OSLIST?This teamcould work on an Agile way. I?ll behappy to > contribute. I don?t know exactly how, but I?ll be there to do it > togetherwith those who wish to do it also. ;)ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FROM > WITHIN > www.colaboremos.com?Arturo Usc?tegui Restrepo > Transition Facilitator Specialized in Organizational Development.? > Helping organizations to collaborate and find their own solutions from > within+33 (0)6 52 14 29 09Skype: auscateguirTwitter: @icolaboremosLinked in > : fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/ > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > -- > ? > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/085e45bd/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:45:35 +0200 > From: Tova Averbuch via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Bhavesh Patel <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > About 500. Since 1999 > Tova Averbuch > > ???? ??-iPhone ??? > > ?-Dec 14, 2014, ???? 2:43, Bhavesh Patel via OSList > <[email protected]> ???/?: > >> ?Around 50... just finished one today in Kiev! >> >> >> >> On 13 December 2014 at 18:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>> >>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience > being reported! >>> >>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... > explore.... >>> >>> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> The OST-7 Game >>> ======================================== >>> >>> The Goal: >>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 > or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>> >>> The Rules: >>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with > "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to > say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair > color, etc >>> >>> Tracking Progress: >>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # > of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like >>> >>> Play: >>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer > to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>> >>> ======================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Notes: >>> For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at > least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays > together, under the same subject >>> >>> Steps to Play: >>> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >>> >>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Mezick, President >>> >>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>> >>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>> >>> Bio. Blog. Twitter. >>> >>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. >>> >>> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching. >>> >>> Explore the Agile Boston Community. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/300829f9/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:51:55 +0200 > From: Tova Averbuch via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Markus Wittwer <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Unfortunately in the last 7 years I am not. > For seven years (1999-2006) I was both frequent lurker and contributor. And > then could not have the time and attention for many reasons. > I am in love and it debt to this beautiful community and list and am trying > to meet Face to face in WOS on OS events > > Hope to lurk again spoon and meet old and new friends!:) > Much love > Tova Averbuch > > > ???? ??-iPhone ??? > > ?-Dec 14, 2014, ???? 2:19, Markus Wittwer via OSList > <[email protected]> ???/?: > >> Lurk... >> >> Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList: >>> Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and >>> OSLIST.... >>> >>> ...the participants at the time were.... >>> >>> Chuni Li >>> Daniel Mezick >>> Karen Davis >>> Linda Stevenson >>> Lucas Cioffi >>> Paul Levy >>> Peggy Holman >>> Skye Hirst >>> Suzanne Daigle >>> Tricia Chirumbole >>> Harold Shinsato >>> >>> We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not >>> actually be very easy to figure out... >>> >>> ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members, >>> with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything >>> close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly >>> authoritative voices. >>> >>> ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually be >>> kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in. >>> >>> >>> The Game >>> >>> We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked >>> about trying to find out. >>> >>> >>> So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST >>> threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you >>> willing to play a little game? >>> >>> >>> The Lurker Game: you are invited to play... >>> >>> 1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on >>> the list are "regular lurkers". >>> >>> 2. *...The rules* are: >>> >>> * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to >>> the game, by replying... >>> * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All >>> you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it. >>> >>> 3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and seeing >>> how many reply over time. >>> >>> 4. ...Participation is *opt-in*. >>> >>> >>> >>> To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter] >>> ...or... >>> >>> ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead >>> >>> We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/c352c2ba/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:39:27 +0200 > From: Arno Baltin via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]>, OSLIST > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <cadt+i9fobxxbco5o2mkdxgnte6n7_8axrbaaen819y+sbmx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi! > > 7+ > > I appreciate your effort Daniel! > > Be well! > > Arno > > > > > 2014-12-13 18:34 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mezick via OSList < > [email protected]>: >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >> *explore....* >> >> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7** Game* >> ======================================== >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 >> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of >> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair >> color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of >> OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >> absolutely any other measures you like >> >> *Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer >> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >> stays together, under the same subject >> >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say >> >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile >> Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >> Community. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/15c232a6/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:46:58 +0000 > From: paul levy via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <caanjsbdwsae93m3bql99m5fbvnp5zf9okcsz9wv03e7rxa3...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I've facilictated around 50 gatherings using Open Space Technology. > > And therein lies a possible interesting conundrum. > > Because I have open space thousands of times. I have also never opened > space quite like the next time it is going to happen. So the number if many > and zero. > > I've also opened space improvising around open space technology. And Open > Space Technology has changed around me. Self-organisation has tinkered with > the "recipe" - the one in the guide. But that gets talked about a lot less > on this list and, increasingly, a bunch of "open spacer" are sharing those > stories elsewhere. > > There is no such thing as open space technology. There is no guide. There > is no "founder", there are no gatekeepers; yet there are all of these > things. > > Tomorrow might just be my first ever Open Space. > > warm wishes > > Paul Levy > > On 13 December 2014 at 16:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >> *explore....* >> >> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7** Game* >> ======================================== >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 >> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of >> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair >> color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of >> OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >> absolutely any other measures you like >> >> *Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer >> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >> stays together, under the same subject >> >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say >> >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile >> Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >> Community. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/e1490be0/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:40:10 +0100 > From: Koos de Heer via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have done so many that I have lost count. I always dream of going back in > all my calendars and do a count. So far, haven't gotten around to it. > > Happy lurking! > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Koos de Heer > > Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]>schreef: > >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... > /explore..../ >> >> So: if you want, /you are cordially invited/ to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7**Game* >> ======================================== >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated >> 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the >> depth of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire > membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your >> hair color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # >> of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >> absolutely any other measures you like >> * >> **Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and >> prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> * For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> * This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> * Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >> stays together, under the same subject >> >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> * Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >> >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter > <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book:The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >> Agile Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/3230492c/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:56:33 +0100 > From: Thomas Herrmann via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Arno Baltin <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology email > list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes > Lost count but several hundred these 15yrs. Also trained approx 300 people > and I hear often about their opening space all over. A true joy that gives > me faith for the future. > Thomas Herrmann in Sweden > > Skickat fr?n min iPhone > >> 14 dec 2014 kl. 11:39 skrev Arno Baltin via OSList > <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi! >> >> 7+ >> >> I appreciate your effort Daniel! >> >> Be well! >> >> Arno >> >> >> >> >> 2014-12-13 18:34 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mezick via OSList > <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>> >>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience > being reported! >>> >>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... > explore.... >>> >>> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> The OST-7 Game >>> ======================================== >>> >>> The Goal: >>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 > or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>> >>> The Rules: >>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with > "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to > say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your > hair color, etc >>> >>> Tracking Progress: >>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # > of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like >>> >>> Play: >>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer > to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>> >>> ======================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Notes: >>> For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at > least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays > together, under the same subject >>> >>> Steps to Play: >>> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >>> >>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Mezick, President >>> >>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>> >>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>> >>> Bio. Blog. Twitter. >>> >>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. >>> >>> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching. >>> >>> Explore the Agile Boston Community. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/108634a1/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:47:08 +0100 > From: Eva P Svensson via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Gray <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology > email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have also stopped counting :-) > But love doing it whenever it?s possible. > :o) > Eva > Sweden > > B?sta h?lsningar > > Eva P Svensson > > EPS Human Invest AB > Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc > Medlem i Beyond Performance Group > > "Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende f?retag > och organisationer" > > An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA > Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg > Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 > www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> > Skype: eva.p.svensson > Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB > twitter:@EvaPSvensson > > "Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till > dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates > > > > > > > > >> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList > <[email protected]>: >> >> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 > people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007. >> >> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and > still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >> >> >> >> ? >> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >> >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience > being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... explore.... >> >> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: >> >> >> ======================================== >> The OST-7 Game >> ======================================== >> >> The Goal: >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 > or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >> >> The Rules: >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with > "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to > say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair > color, etc >> >> Tracking Progress: >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of > OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like >> >> Play: >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer > to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> >> Notes: >> >> For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm > <http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm> >> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at > least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays > together, under the same subject >> >> Steps to Play: >> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog > <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. > >> Examine my new book: The Culture Game? > <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile > Manager. >> Explore Agile Team Training > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> Explore the Agile Boston? > <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/c1e8b8c2/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:26:16 -0600 > From: Michael Herman via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Eva P Svensson <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <CAD8j=QFstho2LWdB2LbGa=sr6+uz2nuogtdyyuep3kshhxw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction > similar to paul levy. > > i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my > management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does > it count as 1 or 4? > > i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built > a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with > minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one > together, or two separate? > > i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. > she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on > every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over > that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what > about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? > > i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a > lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i > offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that > offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk > in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their > dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it > doesn't count at all? > > what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open space > trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an > event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her > participants open later on? > > to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every situation > where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other > situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is > one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. > > my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly > focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make > enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to > show up. > > i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm > "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't > think anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. > it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. > i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do > better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring. > > so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's > even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: > > 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? > 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? > 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live? > 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make? > > and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the > game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? > > michael > > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have also stopped counting :-) >> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >> :o) >> Eva >> Sweden >> >> B?sta h?lsningar >> >> >> Eva P Svensson >> >> >> *EPS Human Invest AB* >> *Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc* >> *Medlem i Beyond Performance Group* >> >> >> *"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende >> f?retag och organisationer"* >> >> >> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >> www.epshumaninvest.se >> Skype: eva.p.svensson >> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >> >> *"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till >> dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList < >> [email protected]>: >> >> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 >> people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since > 2007. >> >> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and >> still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >> >> >> >> ? >> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>> >>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >>> being reported! >>> >>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >>> *explore....* >>> >>> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >>> the OST-7 Game: >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> *The OST-7** Game* >>> ======================================== >>> >>> *The Goal:* >>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 >>> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of >>> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>> >>> *The Rules:* >>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >>> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >>> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair >>> color, etc >>> >>> *Tracking Progress:* >>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # >>> of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >>> absolutely any other measures you like >>> >>> *Play:* >>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer >>> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>> >>> ======================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Notes: >>> >>> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >>> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >>> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >>> stays together, under the same subject >>> >>> >>> Steps to Play: >>> >>> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to >>> say >>> >>> >>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Daniel Mezick, President >>> >>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>> >>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >>> Agile Manager. >>> >>> Explore Agile Team Training >>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >>> >>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >>> Community. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/73a107de/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:37:22 -0500 > From: via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Michael Herman <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Michael, > I enjoyed reading your responses/reflections. > You made me think more > About the subtleties of working w/others, training, facilitating, & being > humanly present. > The 7 or more inquiry helped me to process a good number of OS that I have > fostered. > I am grateful to be conscious now of what had been unconscious. > In the stream of things, will this matter or change anything? > Probably not. > Currently, I have Cancer, receive chemo, & appreciate all recall. > Peace & diversity of opinions, > Scott > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction > similar to paul levy. >> >> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my > management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does > it count as 1 or 4? >> >> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built > a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with > minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one > together, or two separate? >> >> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. > she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on > every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over > that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what > about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? >> >> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a > lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i > offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that > offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk > in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog? > that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it doesn't > count at all? >> >> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open > space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after > an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her > participants open later on? >> >> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every > situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many > other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this > is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. >> >> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly > focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough > invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up. >> >> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm > "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't think > anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. it > would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. i > think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do > better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring. >> >> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's > even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: >> >> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? >> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? >> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live? >> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make? >> >> and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the > game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? >> >> michael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> >>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I have also stopped counting :-) >>> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >>> :o) >>> Eva >>> Sweden >>> >>> B?sta h?lsningar >>> >>> Eva P Svensson >>> >>> EPS Human Invest AB >>> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc >>> Medlem i Beyond Performance Group >>> >>> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende > f?retag och organisationer" >>> >>> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >>> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >>> www.epshumaninvest.se >>> Skype: eva.p.svensson >>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >>> >>> "Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till > dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList > <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 > people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007. >>>> >>>> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, > and still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Sent from Mailbox >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>>>> >>>>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience > being reported! >>>>> >>>>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... > explore.... >>>>> >>>>> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it > the OST-7 Game: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ======================================== >>>>> The OST-7 Game >>>>> ======================================== >>>>> >>>>> The Goal: >>>>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated > 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>>>> >>>>> The Rules: >>>>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with > "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to > say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair > color, etc >>>>> >>>>> Tracking Progress: >>>>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # > of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like >>>>> >>>>> Play: >>>>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and > prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>>>> >>>>> ======================================== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> >>>>> For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>>>> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated > at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>>>> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread > stays together, under the same subject >>>>> >>>>> Steps to Play: >>>>> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>>>> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >>>>> >>>>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>>> >>>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>>> >>>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>>> >>>>> Bio. Blog. Twitter. >>>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. >>>>> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching. >>>>> >>>>> Explore the Agile Boston Community. >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/62e80906/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:50:43 -0000 > From: Francois Knuchel via OSList <[email protected]> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Dan > > > > BUTTERFLY! (and usually with a delay of a week or two). > > > > I don?t consider myself a lurker ? I don?t hide behind somewhere, ready to > pounce, I have no evil intentions. But maybe that?s a cultural thing. :) > > > > I think butterfly is a more elegant expression, even in the online world. > > > > Francois > > London > > > > > > > > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Daniel Mezick via OSList > Sent: 10 December 2014 23:25 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST? > > > > Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and > OSLIST.... > > ...the participants at the time were.... > > Chuni Li > Daniel Mezick > Karen Davis > Linda Stevenson > Lucas Cioffi > Paul Levy > Peggy Holman > Skye Hirst > Suzanne Daigle > Tricia Chirumbole > Harold Shinsato > > We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not actually > be very easy to figure out... > > ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members, with > just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything close to > a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly authoritative voices. > > ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST might actually be kind of > intimidating for new people to participate in. > > > The Game > > We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked > about trying to find out. > > > So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST threads > periodically but does not actively participate ... are you willing to play > a little game? > > > The Lurker Game: you are invited to play... > > 1. ...The goal is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on the > list are "regular lurkers". > > 2. ...The rules are: > > * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to > the game, by replying... > * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All > you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it. > > 3. ...We'll all track the progress by watching the thread, and seeing how > many reply over time. > > 4. ...Participation is opt-in. > > > > To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter] > ...or... > > ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead > > We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops. > > Thanks! > Daniel > > -- > > > > Daniel Mezick, President > > New Technology Solutions Inc. > > (203) 915 7248 (cell) > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/> . <http://newtechusa.net/blog/> > Blog. <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/> Twitter.? > > Examine my new book:? <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/> > The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. > > Explore Agile Team <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> > Training and <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> > Coaching. > > Explore the <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/> Agile Boston > Community.? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/bfb52e26/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:41 -0500 > From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <[email protected]> > To: "Michael Herman" <[email protected]>, "World wide Open > Space Technology email list" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSList] Community Gardens > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Hi! (I started to write just to Michael - but realized that others > might find the question and answer of interest.) > > How does the nominal leader run the community garden in OS? Most > particularly how does the work that needs to be done to manage the > garden as a whole get done? > > I ask as secretary of a Governing Committee that came into existence > when the original founders alienated too many people (by being arrogant > and punitive and authoritarian) and it was decided we needed to have > some structure and governance. > > 'Nuff said, interested in the answer! > > Peace, > Annamarie > > Annamarie Pluhar > > Pluhar Consulting > http://www.pluharconsulting.com > 802.451.1941 > 802.579.5975 (cell) > > On 14 Dec 2014, at 11:26, Michael Herman via OSList wrote: > >> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a >> direction >> similar to paul levy. >> >> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my >> management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. >> does >> it count as 1 or 4? >> >> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also >> built >> a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, >> with >> minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one >> together, or two separate? >> >> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of >> dying. >> she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, >> on >> every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but >> over >> that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? >> what >> about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? >> >> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood >> has a >> lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating >> everything. i >> offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that >> offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my >> desk >> in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking >> their >> dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it >> doesn't count at all? >> >> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open >> space >> trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after >> an >> event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her >> participants open later on? >> >> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every >> situation >> where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many >> other >> situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this >> is >> one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. >> >> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly >> focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make >> enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going >> to >> show up. >> >> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm >> "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't >> think anyone could come to this work without having already done it >> before. >> it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior >> experience. >> i think people ask for training so they can do what they already >> know/do >> better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they >> bring. >> >> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure >> it's >> even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: >> >> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? >> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? >> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you >> live? >> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to >> make? >> >> and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just >> the >> game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? >> >> michael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I have also stopped counting :-) >>> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >>> :o) >>> Eva >>> Sweden >>> >>> B?sta h?lsningar >>> >>> >>> Eva P Svensson >>> >>> >>> *EPS Human Invest AB* >>> *Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc* >>> *Medlem i Beyond Performance Group* >>> >>> >>> *"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt >>> v?lm?ende >>> f?retag och organisationer"* >>> >>> >>> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >>> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >>> www.epshumaninvest.se >>> Skype: eva.p.svensson >>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >>> >>> *"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla >>> fr?gor till >>> dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was >>> 8 >>> people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it >>> since 2007. >>> >>> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, >>> and >>> still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >>> >>> >>> >>> ? >>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>>> >>>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of >>>> experience >>>> being reported! >>>> >>>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >>>> *explore....* >>>> >>>> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call >>>> it >>>> the OST-7 Game: >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================== >>>> *The OST-7** Game* >>>> ======================================== >>>> >>>> *The Goal:* >>>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually >>>> Facilitated 7 >>>> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the >>>> depth of >>>> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>>> >>>> *The Rules:* >>>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying >>>> with >>>> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might >>>> like to >>>> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your >>>> hair >>>> color, etc >>>> >>>> *Tracking Progress:* >>>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of >>>> countries, # >>>> of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, >>>> or >>>> absolutely any other measures you like >>>> >>>> *Play:* >>>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and >>>> prefer >>>> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>>> >>>> ======================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Notes: >>>> >>>> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >>>> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>>> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >>>> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>>> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the >>>> thread >>>> stays together, under the same subject >>>> >>>> >>>> Steps to Play: >>>> >>>> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>>> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like >>>> to >>>> say >>>> >>>> >>>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>> >>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>> >>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >>>> Agile Manager. >>>> >>>> Explore Agile Team Training >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >>>> >>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >>>> Community. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/bb6ad83f/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:59:12 -0800 > From: Peggy Holman via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Open Listserv <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] How do we define LURKER? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a > different tone. > > > The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a > message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed > about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just > to respond with a ?present?. While he used the term lurkers, he included in > a larger framing (below). > > By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those responding > now. Ironically, Erik?s reflections on the roll call (also below) was his > last message to the list. > > > appreciatively, > Peggy > > > ROLL CALL: PRESENT >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a > physical space, lacks the >> information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave. >> >> I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the > folks with better things to do, >> anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would > like to be noted as attending >> to this virtual space. >> >> I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a > sense of scale to the ratio of >> talkers to the silent. >> >> Erik - present >> >> * >> > > > REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL > >> On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> 1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like to > chime in. Feel welcome. >> >> 2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so far > in the Roll Call. Your >> responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a > fascinating moment where I >> didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a > filibuster or something. >> >> I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present in > this OSLIST conversation >> despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt > like some kind of bedrock >> to me. >> >> The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of > multiple >> conversations on the list. I have also started to hear some reflection > from Michael (here: >> http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs) > and so it seems >> appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call. >> >> I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context of > a couple weeks of debate >> about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing > values around online >> communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change. >> >> Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space > principles help us both >> support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of OST > and opening space? >> (http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9) >> >> So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who > would like to reflect on the >> Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call > in the light of recent >> debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of > OS. >> >> Cheers, >> Erik >> >> * > * > > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > Executive Director > Journalism that Matters > 15347 SE 49th Place > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 425-746-6274 > www.journalismthatmatters.net > www.peggyholman.com > Twitter: @peggyholman > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into > Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > Check out my series on what's?emerging in the news &?information ecosystem > <http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_ > system> > > > > > > > > >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Given we are a community working with open space, >> >> therefore able or learning to be absolutely present >> and absolutely invisible >> >> isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ? >> >> >> Greetings Gerard, Denmark >> >> >> >> ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08: >>> Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that >>> listening isn't active participation. >>> My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made >>> visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active. >>> Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it >>> also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here >>> to expand. >>> I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years. >>> Reading most everything, but not so visible. >>> I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those >>> places aren't so obvious. >>> Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones. >>> Michael >>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear: >>>> "...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does >>>> not actively participate." >>>> The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify >>>> with it, and optionally play the game. >>>> Daniel >>>> On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged >>>>> the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences... >>>>> I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS? >>>>> Would love to listen to your thoughts on this.... >>>>> Carms >>>>> True happiness is a state of mind. >>>>> Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen. >>>>> Do not pursue happiness - practice it. >>>>> Sing, even if you do not sound good. >>>>> Smile, even when things go wrong. >>>>> Create happiness, and happy you will be. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> [1] >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>> Bio [2]. Blog [3]. Twitter [4]. >>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game [5]: Tools for the Agile >>>> Manager. >>>> Explore Agile Team Training [6] and Coaching. [7] >>>> Explore the Agile Boston [8]Community. >>> -- >>> -- >>> Michael Herman >>> Michael Herman Associates >>> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >>> http://MichaelHerman.com [9] >>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org [10] >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> [2] http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/ >>> [3] http://newtechusa.net/blog/ >>> [4] http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/ >>> [5] http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/ >>> [6] http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ >>> [7] http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/ >>> [8] http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/ >>> [9] http://MichaelHerman.com >>> [10] http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/b3741cb0/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:04:52 -0600 > From: Michael Herman via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, OSLIST > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Community Gardens > Message-ID: > <CAD8j=QHG+Yxm2M=xadzoeumijvxztoexzobbobbrpzva0_n...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hi annamarie, > > in our space, we have 18 plots in one large raised bed. plots are assigned > on first-come basis. > > the previous garden leader and the guy who cut the grass in the park took 6 > of the 18 plots for themselves, what seemed like the sunniest and best > plots. the first thing i did was take no plot. one other garden leader > takes one plot. everybody's equal, nobody gets more than one plot. > > the next thing i did was set up an email group. when people ask for a > plot, i ask them to join the list. if they don't join, they never get the > information needed to sign up. so i ask them to take some responsibility > for their interest right away. it's not about a transaction that they pay > their little fee for their little plot. they have to actually show up in > the list. > > then all the info goes out on the list. everything is done as > transparently as possible. assignments are done on a tenure basis, first > pick to returning gardeners, then in order of joining the list. > > i invite/suggest tilling the whole bet together in the spring. my wife and > i live without a car, so i ask for somebody to pickup the rental tiller, > and volunteers come out throughout the day to take turns using it. some > don't show, and a few guys have a lot of fun giving the whole thing second > and third coats with the powertool. some people have perennials to be > saved, and they are responsible for getting those marked for the tillers. > > through the summer, the list allows folks to ask others to water their > stuff while they go away. ask questions about various issues, who's > stealing tomatoes, what to do about the homeless guy sleeping in the park, > is he the guy stealing tomatoes? what about tree trimming? or what about > the big tree that shattered in the storm, the expert says it should come > down, but can it be saved? always my thing is putting out as much info as > i have and asking what anyone thinks, and what anyone can do to contribute. > and yes, the shattered tree has been saved for a few years now because a > couple of people on the list jumped to do what was needed to make that > happen. > > we've had conflict of sorts, at least differences of opinion/agenda over > spreading weed poison in the park where the plots are. so that required a > fair amount of space holding on the list and in relations with my > neighbors. the neighbors were mostly willing to chip in and buy the poison > service. the gardeners we're willing to chip in and help dig up the > dandelions, also to do research on alternative sprays. one gardener's > father was an ag scientiest for one of the chemical companies. so we ended > up having a lot of good information, found an organic alternative, had to > have only one nasty treatment, and the gardeners worked to dig weeds within > the area closest to the garden bed. > > mostly i ask a lot more questions and feed a lot more info into the list, > our "wall" and don't hardly ever tell anyone what they need to do. got a > little dicey in the weeds process, when a good friend and neighbor who > lives right next to the park, and led the weed poison charge, wanted and > expected me to do just that -- tell everybody how it was going to be. in > the end, my mailbox ends up being where organic weed treatment donations > are dropped off by neighbors and gardeners. of course, i am also the > keeper of the neighborhood contact info directory page and the neighbors > email list. in the garden there are a set of rules posted, as guides, but > enforcement is left to the group. > > i guess i should also say that this land is held by a non-profit in chicago > that holds or leases claim to 70 or 80 green spaces. they handle > insurance, water bills, and other admin issues and contract with a > community group (the neighborhood association, in our case) and at least > three local garden leaders. the way i came into this is that i saw the > previous leadership running a very exclusive, controlling process and > happened to meet the director of the non-profit, who mentioned that he'd > not heard from our garden leaders for years. i helped him reconnect, but > also helped him re-write their contract with community group and leaders, > adding a larger section for "stakeholder" signatures. expanding the > circle, if you will. so i went around and had this new contract signed by > lots of neighbors and had a chance to talk to a lot of folks about what > they thought of the park and the garden and the neighborhood. then the old > leader got bothered that he'd not be in sole control, and walked out. the > neighborhood association took a while to figure out that i wasn't the > devil, but over time that's been borne out by the work i've done to engage > everyone in an open, expanding, resilient, emerging sort of process. > > for my next trick, i try to get out and go take a nap for a year, or at > least get out of some of the stuff like collecting fees, assigning plots, > inviting the tiller day to happen. we'll see! > > does that answer the question? > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Annamarie Pluhar < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi! (I started to write just to Michael - but realized that others might >> find the question and answer of interest.) >> >> How does the nominal leader run the community garden in OS? Most >> particularly how does the work that needs to be done to manage the garden >> as a whole get done? >> >> I ask as secretary of a Governing Committee that came into existence when >> the original founders alienated too many people (by being arrogant and >> punitive and authoritarian) and it was decided we needed to have some >> structure and governance. >> >> 'Nuff said, interested in the answer! >> >> Peace, >> Annamarie >> >> Annamarie Pluhar >> >> Pluhar Consulting >> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >> 802.451.1941 >> 802.579.5975 (cell) >> >> On 14 Dec 2014, at 11:26, Michael Herman via OSList wrote: >> >> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction >> similar to paul levy. >> >> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my >> management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does >> it count as 1 or 4? >> >> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built >> a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with >> minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one >> together, or two separate? >> >> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. >> she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on >> every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over >> that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what >> about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? >> >> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a >> lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i >> offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that >> offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk >> in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their >> dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it >> doesn't count at all? >> >> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open > space >> trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an >> event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her >> participants open later on? >> >> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every > situation >> where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other >> situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is >> one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. >> >> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly >> focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make >> enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to >> show up. >> >> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm >> "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't >> think anyone could come to this work without having already done it > before. >> it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. >> i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do >> better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring. >> >> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's >> even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: >> >> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? >> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? >> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you >> live? >> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make? >> >> and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the >> game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? >> >> michael >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have also stopped counting :-) >> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >> :o) >> Eva >> Sweden >> >> B?sta h?lsningar >> >> Eva P Svensson >> >> *EPS Human Invest AB* >> *Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc* >> *Medlem i Beyond Performance Group* >> >> >> *"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende >> f?retag och organisationer"* >> >> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >> www.epshumaninvest.se >> Skype: eva.p.svensson >> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >> >> >> *"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till >> dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates* >> >> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList < >> [email protected]>: >> >> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 >> people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since >> 2007. >> >> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and >> still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >> >> ? >> Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox >> >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >> >> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >> being reported! >> >> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >> *explore....* >> >> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >> the OST-7 Game: >> >> ======================================== >> *The OST-7** Game* >> >> *The Goal:* >> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 >> or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth > of >> practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >> >> *The Rules:* >> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair >> color, etc >> >> *Tracking Progress:* >> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # >> of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >> absolutely any other measures you like >> >> *Play:* >> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer >> to just watch the game, that's OK too. >> >> ======================================== >> >> Notes: >> >> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread >> stays together, under the same subject >> >> Steps to Play: >> >> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to >> say >> >> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog >> http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter >> http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/. >> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >> http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the >> Agile Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching. >> http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/ >> >> Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/ >> Community. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> ------------------------------ >> >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/d20821e3/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:11:48 -0500 > From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Scott Gassman <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: > <cajh+flcco-phxpxlboapwj7qcdwy26pfcrg+pkjao+6skyc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > More than 30 from 2 people to 350. So much more to learn and live, the Open > Space of life. > > Enjoying the game. This too is new learning for me. Thank you Daniel. > Suzanne > On Dec 14, 2014 12:38 PM, "via OSList" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> I enjoyed reading your responses/reflections. >> You made me think more >> About the subtleties of working w/others, training, facilitating, & being >> humanly present. >> The 7 or more inquiry helped me to process a good number of OS that I have >> fostered. >> I am grateful to be conscious now of what had been unconscious. >> In the stream of things, will this matter or change anything? >> Probably not. >> Currently, I have Cancer, receive chemo, & appreciate all recall. >> Peace & diversity of opinions, >> Scott >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction >> similar to paul levy. >> >> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my >> management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. > does >> it count as 1 or 4? >> >> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built >> a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with >> minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one >> together, or two separate? >> >> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. >> she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on >> every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over >> that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what >> about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? >> >> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a >> lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. > i >> offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that >> offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk >> in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their >> dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it >> doesn't count at all? >> >> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open >> space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen > after >> an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her >> participants open later on? >> >> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every >> situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about >> many other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. >> this is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. >> >> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly >> focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make >> enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to >> show up. >> >> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm >> "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't >> think anyone could come to this work without having already done it > before. >> it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior > experience. >> i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do >> better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring. >> >> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's >> even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: >> >> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? >> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? >> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live? >> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make? >> >> and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the >> game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? >> >> michael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I have also stopped counting :-) >>> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >>> :o) >>> Eva >>> Sweden >>> >>> B?sta h?lsningar >>> >>> >>> Eva P Svensson >>> >>> >>> *EPS Human Invest AB* >>> *Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc* >>> *Medlem i Beyond Performance Group* >>> >>> >>> *"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende >>> f?retag och organisationer"* >>> >>> >>> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >>> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >>> www.epshumaninvest.se >>> Skype: eva.p.svensson >>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >>> >>> *"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor >>> till dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 >>> people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since > 2007. >>> >>> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and >>> still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >>> >>> >>> >>> ? >>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>>> >>>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience >>>> being reported! >>>> >>>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... >>>> *explore....* >>>> >>>> So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it >>>> the OST-7 Game: >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================== >>>> *The OST-7** Game* >>>> ======================================== >>>> >>>> *The Goal:* >>>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated >>>> 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the > depth >>>> of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>>> >>>> *The Rules:* >>>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with >>>> "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to >>>> say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your > hair >>>> color, etc >>>> >>>> *Tracking Progress:* >>>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # >>>> of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or >>>> absolutely any other measures you like >>>> >>>> *Play:* >>>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and >>>> prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>>> >>>> ======================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Notes: >>>> >>>> - For this game, "OST" means something like this: >>>> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm >>>> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've >>>> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>>> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the >>>> thread stays together, under the same subject >>>> >>>> >>>> Steps to Play: >>>> >>>> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>>> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like >>>> to say >>>> >>>> >>>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>> >>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>> >>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >>>> Agile Manager. >>>> >>>> Explore Agile Team Training >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >>>> >>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/> >>>> Community. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/228ee0b2/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:59:56 -0800 > From: Peggy Holman via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Open Listserv <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Michael, > > Thanks for the reframing. It reminds me of a question that informed the > stewards of Spirited Work, an Open Space learning community that met in OS 4 > times a year for 7 years: What does it mean to live one?s life in Open > Space? Living in that question has been and continues to be a journey! > > I?ve never counted the number of times I?ve walked the circle, formally > opening space. My first experience with OST was in 1994 and since then, I?ve > worked with groups as small as 5 and as large as 2,100 from all different > sectors ? business, government, nonprofit, community and on 5 continents. I > know there?s no way I would have had to courage to run an OS with 1,800 > street kids and 300 teachers in Bogota, Colombia in a language I don?t speak > if it hadn?t been for the deep learning that came from years of being on > this list!! > > Daniel?s question had me reflecting on the path I?ve traveled as part of > this community. Your gift of openspaceworld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> > gave us an early presence on the web. That was and is huge. Some of my > activities, done, as you noted, because I felt inspired to do them: > > 1995 Produced U S WEST Open Space Video. At Harrison?s suggestion, produced > a video about a 250-ish person OS at U S WEST Communications in Arizona. > It?s now on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/25251316 <http://vimeo.com/25251316>. > When we made it, 16 minutes was considered short! > > 1996 Co-founded Open Space Institute-US. I was one of seven at a gathering > with Harrison in Seattle. It was part of a larger vision of OSIs around the > world. Brian Bainbridge took the lead in Australia and Larry Peterson, > Birgitt Williams, and Diane Gibeault (I think) did the same in Canada. > > 1996 Involved with starting the OS listserv. Part of the original dozen or > so folks who joined this list that Murli Nagasandurum set up for us, a > spontaneous act of generosity prompted by a message we sent out to everyone > on Harrison?s emailing list when we were getting OSI-US going. > > 1998 Co-hosted the 6th annual OSonOS in Monterrey, California. Right after > the first not done by Harrison held in Toronto hosted by Birgitt Williams > and Larry Peterson and right before Chicago, hosted by Michael Hermann, > which was the last before it left North America for Berlin, hosted by > Michael M Pannwitz. > > 1999 Produced Understanding Open Space. I put a mike on Harrison during an > OST workshop we co-hosted in Seattle and produced a 5-CD audio set called > Understanding Open Space. Harold Shinsato has turned it into a series of > podcasts. He?ll have to provide the details on how to access it. Those who > have heard it say it?s a treat! (My personal favorite line is the very last > thing he says on the last track. How?s that for a teaser?) > > > I look at those dates and wonder where did the time go? It all was so long > ago! Yet people who are nearest and dearest to me are people I have met > through the years in this community. As quiet as I?ve been in the last few > years, I still consider this community a home base. > > I?m better because of OSlist. And because of the people I?ve come to love > along the way. > > Peggy > > > > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > Executive Director > Journalism that Matters > 15347 SE 49th Place > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 425-746-6274 > www.journalismthatmatters.net > www.peggyholman.com > Twitter: @peggyholman > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into > Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > Check out my series on what's?emerging in the news &?information ecosystem > <http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_ > system> > > > > > > > > >> On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction > similar to paul levy. >> >> i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my > management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does > it count as 1 or 4? >> >> i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built > a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with > minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one > together, or two separate? >> >> i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. > she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on > every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over > that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what > about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice? >> >> i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a > lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i > offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that > offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk > in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog? > that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it doesn't > count at all? >> >> what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open > space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after > an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her > participants open later on? >> >> to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every > situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many > other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this > is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. >> >> my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly > focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough > invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up. >> >> i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm > "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't think > anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. it > would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. i > think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do > better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring. >> >> so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's > even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like: >> >> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost? >> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value? >> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live? >> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make? >> >> and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the > game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? >> >> michael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/> >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: >> I have also stopped counting :-) >> But love doing it whenever it?s possible. >> :o) >> Eva >> Sweden >> >> B?sta h?lsningar >> >> Eva P Svensson >> >> EPS Human Invest AB >> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc >> Medlem i Beyond Performance Group >> >> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende > f?retag och organisationer" >> >> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> >> Skype: eva.p.svensson >> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >> >> "Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till > dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> >>> Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 > people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007. >>> >>> And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and > still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..." >>> >>> >>> >>> ? >>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting. >>> >>> ...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience > being reported! >>> >>> So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... > explore.... >>> >>> So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the > OST-7 Game: >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> The OST-7 Game >>> ======================================== >>> >>> The Goal: >>> Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 > or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of > practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership? >>> >>> The Rules: >>> If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with > "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to > say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair > color, etc >>> >>> Tracking Progress: >>> Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # > of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or > absolutely any other measures you like >>> >>> Play: >>> 100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer > to just watch the game, that's OK too. >>> >>> ======================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Notes: >>> >>> For this game, "OST" means something like this: > http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm > <http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm> >>> This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at > least 7 of these events in your lifetime. >>> Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays > together, under the same subject >>> >>> Steps to Play: >>> Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List] >>> Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say >>> >>> You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see... >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Mezick, President >>> >>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>> >>> (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell) >>> >>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog > <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. > >>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game? > <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile > Manager. >>> Explore Agile Team Training > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >>> Explore the Agile Boston? > <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen > ts/20141214/f2bee30b/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:15:50 +0100 > From: ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList <[email protected]> > To: Peggy Holman <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] How do we define LURKER? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > I feel like an ?active reader? and like a lurker alternately. > Ingrid > > > Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS > Institut f?r Entwicklungsberatung und Supervision > > Systemische OE-Prozessberatung und -Designs > Executive-Coaching ? Gro?gruppen-Interventionen > > Am Alten Geh?ge 6 ? D- 30657 Hannover > fon +49-511-336 03 30 ? fax +49-511-336 03 47 > mobile +49-172-5145179 > [email protected] ? http://www.institut-ebus.de > > > > > > > > Am 14.12.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList > <[email protected]>: > >> I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a > different tone. >> >> >> The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a > message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed > about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just > to respond with a ?present?. While he used the term lurkers, he included in > a larger framing (below). >> >> By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those > responding now. Ironically, Erik?s reflections on the roll call (also below) > was his last message to the list. >> >> >> appreciatively, >> Peggy >> >> >> ROLL CALL: PRESENT >>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> >>> I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a > physical space, lacks the >>> information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave. >>> >>> I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the > folks with better things to do, >>> anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would > like to be noted as attending >>> to this virtual space. >>> >>> I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a > sense of scale to the ratio of >>> talkers to the silent. >>> >>> Erik - present >>> >>> * >>> >> >> >> REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL >> >>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> 1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like > to chime in. Feel welcome. >>> >>> 2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so > far in the Roll Call. Your >>> responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a > fascinating moment where I >>> didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a > filibuster or something. >>> >>> I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present > in this OSLIST conversation >>> despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt > like some kind of bedrock >>> to me. >>> >>> The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of > multiple >>> conversations on the list. I have also started to hear some reflection > from Michael (here: >>> http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs) > and so it seems >>> appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call. >>> >>> I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context > of a couple weeks of debate >>> about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing > values around online >>> communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change. >>> >>> Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space > principles help us both >>> support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of > OST and opening space? >>> (http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9) >>> >>> So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who > would like to reflect on the >>> Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call > in the light of recent >>> debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of > OS. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Erik >>> >>> * >> * >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> Executive Director >> Journalism that Matters >> 15347 SE 49th Place >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 425-746-6274 >> www.journalismthatmatters.net >> www.peggyholman.com >> Twitter: @peggyholman >> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream >> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into > Opportunity >> Check out my series on what's emerging in the news & information ecosystem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Given we are a community working with open space, >>> >>> therefore able or learning to be absolutely present >>> and absolutely invisible >>> >>> isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ? >>> >>> >>> Greetings Gerard, Denmark >>> >>> >>> >>> ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08: >>>> Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that >>>> listening isn't active participation. >>>> My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made >>>> visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active. >>>> Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it >>>> also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here >>>> to expand. >>>> I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years. >>>> Reading most everything, but not so visible. >>>> I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those >>>> places aren't so obvious. >>>> Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones. >>>> Michael >>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear: >>>>> "...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does >>>>> not actively participate." >>>>> The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify >>>>> with it, and optionally play the game. >>>>> Daniel >>>>> On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote: >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged >>>>>> the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences... >>>>>> I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS? >>>>>> Would love to listen to your thoughts on this.... >>>>>> Carms >>>>>> True happiness is a state of mind. >>>>>> Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen. >>>>>> Do not pursue happiness - practice it. >>>>>> Sing, even if you do not sound good. >>>>>> Smile, even when things go wrong. >>>>>> Create happiness, and happy you will be. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>> [1] >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel Mezick, President >>>>> New Technology Solutions Inc. >>>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >>>>> Bio [2]. 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