I support those who have said that combining topics can be problematic for all the reasons already cited, and that the person opening the space certainly should not participate in any combining or sorting - even if they are familiar with the subject matter.

An additional bit of guidance I offer when participants are continuing to consider combining topics is this: After hearing whatever thoughts people share in advocating for combining topics it is, in the end, the decision of the person(s) who put the idea(s) up to decide if they are willing to have their idea combined or not. They have a right and responsibility to own and claim the meaning of their own topic. Two feet can be used to stand your ground.

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Quoting Lisa Heft - via OSList <[email protected]>:

Good points, all. Nigel, I’m also wondering about the physical space. For anything interactive, including Open Space - I look for a space that is at least 2x the size as the amount of expected participants. So many things inform all of this.

I am also wondering Nigel - how might you answer your own question?
Is there anything you think you might have done differently in this particular case, upon reflection?

Lisa

On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <[email protected]> wrote:

Nigel, a few thoughts. One is to find more session times during the day. You say there were three. How long was each session time? 90 minutes can be shortened to 75 minutes for example. Could there be a fourth time added? How about a 'working lunch'?

I would not be concerned about the large number of issues leading to fragmentation. If people care, the conversations are all important.

I do wonder if the theme is too broad and is not helping to focus people's attention on the purpose of the meeting. If not, no problem.

And I'm curious about the design of the closing and the 'harvest' documentation to serve the purpose.

Another idea is: if that many passionate issues come forth to be engaged, the sponsor might agree on two days next time!

Jeff


-------- Original message --------
From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList
Date:01/27/2015 9:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [email protected],'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

Michael

I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
thoughts
In a couple of recent events - with the "issues and opportunities" in the
title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
odd issues....20 plus breakout groups per session....?

I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
and a day what have others done?
My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
session the fragmented nature would mean limited results....

I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
but it's hard

And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?

Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia

Nigel

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Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect on
the word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming I
remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.

With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit about
what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or something I
am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I find that there
was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing. Actually, when
someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest in a very low-key
way that this was not illegal and add something like: What might look
and sound very similar often turns out to be different in an important way.

As a participant I have become quite uncomfortable, irritated or even
foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster"
stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got me to
be cautious with "combining".

How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?


Cheers and good luck with a very short event!

mmp

On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle at the
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> Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces? Thanks!
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