Hello Barry, Koos, Hege and All,

Hmmm, I wonder if the key issue in this situation (as described by Hege) is this actually one:

[compulsion/imposition] *versus* [invitation]

Here is one way to express it, in given-when-then format:

Given:

 * 10 meeting spaces
 * 04 meeting times (meaning 10X4=40 sessions possible)
 * 04 pre-defined topics occupying 04 of the 10-total meeting spaces in
   all timeslots
 * 100% opt-in participation

When:

 * The event is happening

Then:

 * Participants are free to fill up to (10 minus 04 equals 06) spaces,
   across 04 meeting times = 24 sessions


Such a design implies a max of about 100 people, assuming the common ratio of sessions-to-participants of about .2 to .3 (20 to 30 percent) ... yes and of course there are exceptions...

Illustration:

100 participants X .20 = about 20 anticipated sessions minimum
100 participants X .30 = about 30 anticipated sessions maximum

Now, no one actually knows what might happen, so we can guess instead. Guessing based on experience indicates that this "reserve 4 spaces" thing can work, as long as

 * it's opt-in and
 * there is no compulsion to attend, and
 * there is no crowding out of likely sessions constructed in the usual
   dynamic way


If more than 100 people are anticipated, then more times and/or spaces probably need to be defined to accommodate "whatever happens."



And...


By definition, the design of Open Space prescribes [invitation] and is repelled by and allergic to compulsion & imposition.

So, if the 4 "politician-approved" topics are opt-in to attend, there is no compulsion. This seems reasonable and in alignment and supporting of the spirit of Open Space. I wonder if strong suggestion in the OST-invite (and/or at the Opening, in words from the Host) might be experienced as something less than open, depending on the style, tone and tempo of the delivery?

There is also want to examine this related link:
http://newtechusa.net/agile/on-persuasion/




On 8/7/15 7:36 AM, Barry Owen via OSList wrote:


Perhaps a format like BarCamp might be more suitable than Open Space?

That format allows for prescription of topics beforehand and offers the participants the opportunity to request topics they want to learn more about or are willing to lead discussions about. It is a derivative of open space, and is not open space but its not a bad format for people who are not willing to relinquish their control to the degree that open space requires.

I think you are correct in your thinking that what they want is not open space. So attempting to do open space with this group may be akin to fitting a round peg in a square hole

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On Aug 7, 2015 5:34 AM, "Koos de Heer via OSList" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Hege,

    Filling the complete agenda beforehand is not something I would do
    in Open Space. I do allow people to prepare topics beforehand if
    they want to, but then these conveners have to put their topic on
    the marketplace with all the others. For me, the power of Open
    Space is in the present, in the now. The passion of the people at
    that moment is what drives it. That moment when the invitation is
    out and people come forward to write their topic on a piece of
    paper is a very special moment, where the passion of NOW becomes
    tangible. A pre-filled agenda does not fit in with that.

    An interesting question of course is why they want to do it that
    way. If only politicians can fill the agenda, then (at least in my
    book) only the politicians can be participants. If they want the
    people of the community to be participants, then everybody gets
    the opportunity to fill the agenda together. If I understand yout
    mail correctly, they want the community to participate but only
    the politicians to create the agenda. There must be a reason for
    that. Finding out that reason is important, because then you might
    be able to show them that they are trying to take a long route to
    their goal and that there may be a much better, more direct route.

    Good luck

    Koos

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    *Verzonden:* vrijdag 7 augustus 2015 11:56
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    *Onderwerp:* [OSList] is OS apropriate to fill a structure

    Dear list - colleague.

    I´ve worked with Open Space on two occasions in the same
    municipality, and they seem to enjoy and value it. I always work
    with OS as a process with a pre meeting and a follow up meeting.

    Now they have designed a new structure for how the politicians
    should organize decision-making in order to let the politicians
    govern more for real and have more interesting and meaningful
    tasks. They want let the politicians be involved in filling the
    structure with content, and want  to use OS for this purpose.

    My question:

    Is this open enough for an OS meeting? Is the structure simply the
    givens and the question « how do we serve our community the best
    within this structure» or something like that?

    Or do we work better with World Cafe or other tools in this situation?

    Do you have experience or advices to give me?

    I wonder...

    All the best from

    Hege


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