Thanks, Harrison! Your insight about invitation (how forced "invites" don't work in the long run) seems the same paradigm shift you have been teaching us for years - as you wrote about in your beautiful post yesterday: all systems are open and self-organizing.

It reminds me, and seems in the same spirit of another Paradigm Shifter - the founder of Aikido Morihei Ueshiba. I recall someone paraphrasing his teaching that the moment someone attempts to attack, or oppose, they're already defeated. I dug up the following quotes.

"To attack means that the spirit has already lost. We adhere to the principle of absolute nonresistance, that is to say, we do not oppose the attacker. Thus, there is no opponent in Aikido."
- Morihei Ueshiba (from an interview - )

"The Art of Peace is the principle of nonresistance. Because it is nonresistant, it is victorious from the beginning. Those with evil intentions or contentious thoughts are instantly vanquished. The Art of Peace is invincible because it contends with nothing."
    - Morihei Ueshiba (from his book, "The Art of Peace")


    Harold


On 8/31/15 3:38 PM, Harrison via OSList wrote:

Actually, Dan/Lucas – I think it is a lot weirder than that... All them Dictators are trying to “force the system.” Seems to work for a bit, but that is definitely illusory. Eventually it all blows up in their face. Good Old SO (self organization) has been around a lot longer than the current “ruler of the world,” and will be around long after they are back to cosmic dust. Remember that character named “Julius?” Or was it Napoleon, Attila, or Adolph?

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*From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
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*Subject:* [OSList] Inviting non-invitation

"Is it accurate to say that some self organizing happens by invitation and some happens by coercion/force? "


Great question Lucas!

The [invitation] wall-poster you suggest feels wall-worthy to me, so long as no one is obligated to examine it... or even look at it.

My turn to ask a question: What might a world "void of manipulation" and "replete with invitation" actually look like?

Daniel

On 8/31/15 9:57 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList wrote:

    Hi All,

    Is it accurate to say that some self organizing happens by
    invitation and some happens by coercion/force?

    For example, from the perspective of someone who lives outside of
    Iraq, the way the Ba'ath Party took charge of Iraq through a coup
    seems like an example of self-organizing by force to us, because
    we're outside the system of Iraq.  I welcome some thoughts on this.

    Over the past few months (and working with Michael Herman for
    VOSonOS) I've seen that the spirit of invitation shouldn't end
    with the writing of the invitation, and instead it should be
    present throughout the open space.  When someone posts a topic on
    the marketplace wall, they are inviting others to a conversation,
    not taking over a time slot (like having a coup and taking over a
    small country).

    When someone wants to be a "dictator" of their open space session,
    yes others can use their two feet and walk out, but that comes at
    a cost to the social fabric of the organization.  A better outcome
    would be that the would-be dictator holds a welcoming space from
    the start.  So I'd recommend that another sign worth posting on
the wall near "Law of Two Feet" would be "Spirit of Invitation". I think it's wall-worthy, do you?


    Lucas Cioffi

    Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>

    Charlottesville, VA

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