A master chef and a new cook were discussing soup inside the expansive kitchen of a rather comfortable prison. "Soup is interesting," said the apprentice. "Everyone likes a good and hearty soup." While they chopped the various ingredients, the subject of spice came up. "I like a spicy soup," said the apprentice. The master nodded knowingly as the apprentice enthusiastically added various spices to the broth. Soon, they finished cooking. As the soup cooled, the master chef placed it carefully in the refrigerator.

The next morning, the soup was reheated, and each tasted it. "This soup is not spicy enough!" said the apprentice, studying the master for some kind of reaction. "It needs something extra." The apprentice proceeded to add all manner of spices.

The soup was served that day. Only a few of the inmates consumed the soup, and many complained bitterly about it among themselves.

In the weeks that followed, only a few of the 235 prison inmates tried any kind of soup that was offered to them.

"Why are the all the inmates avoiding our soups?", asked the apprentice.

"I notice that your soup is eaten only by those with no other choice, and they do not finish it," said the Master.


On 9/4/15 2:48 AM, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList wrote:
An invitation is "an invitation" if and only if you can refuse it.
This is the core of it's relation with things like boundaries, constraints, power and control.
​ge​

*
*

*Certified Professional Facilitator**

*Office: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano – Italy
Phone: +39 3293281343
Fax: +39 02 87151318
Skype: gerardodeluz
xge(at)loci.it
*www.loci.it * <http://www.loci.it>**

<http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it>

*/Please consider the environment before deciding to print this e-mail/**//*

This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly confidential and for use only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient(s), please notify it via e-mail at [email protected] <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:[email protected]>promptly


2015-09-02 0:26 GMT+02:00 David Osborne via OSList <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Building on the constraints conversation.Another lens I look at
    this same dynamic through is control. When leaders are
    establishing constraints they are often doing so to try to control
    the situation or outcome. When control is to tight it inhibits the
    innovation and emergence that can flow form self-organization.
    Similarly no boundaries can leave a system to loose for
    self-organization to coalesce around emerging innovation and so
    cohesion is less likely.

    My thoughts along the way.

    Enjoying the conversation.

    David

    On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Harrison via OSList
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Here’s a thought... Space/time is infinite, defined by our
        minds, and limited by our imagination. So “constraints” are
        only what you make them out to be. AND... it is always nice to
        have as much “space/time” as possible. A “genuine invitation”
        creates a LOT of space/time.

        Ho

        Winter Address

        7808 River Falls Drive

        Potomac, MD 20854

        301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>

        Summer Address

        189 Beaucaire Ave.

        Camden, ME 04843

        207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>

        Websites

        www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>

        www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>

        OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view
        the archives of OSLIST Go
        to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org

        *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
        *Michael Herman via OSList
        *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:15 PM
        *To:* Chris Corrigan; World wide Open Space Technology email list
        *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Inviting non-invitation

            People who write sonnets accept constraints.  monks and
nuns accept constraints. Musicians accept constraints. Athletes accept constraints. People who live on islands
            accept constraints.  The idea here is that in accepting
            sometimes extremely limiting constraints, you are forced
            to go deeper in your work.  AS a manager if you also offer
            invitations into a constrained space, you may indeed
            create the conditions for some amazing things to happen.
             “You have $3000 to work with on your prototype, but you
            have to work with two other people and get it done in two
            days.  Do you accept this invitation?  OK! Go!”

        yes!  and there is the chance to notice that there can be a
        difference between a manager imposing random constraints
        versus clearly articulating and/or translating the constraints
        that ARE already existing in the environment.  there is also
        the possibility for managers to overreact in the transmitting
        of environment to system, to editorialize and use outside
        forces as excuses for imposing constraints.  people can opt in
        to constraints that are randomly or otherwise badly
        articulated, but i think the ideal to strive for is the very
        cleanest transmission of the bigger picture environmental
        constraints.  the practice of invitation is a kind of search
        for truth(s) about what is.



        --

        Michael Herman
        Michael Herman Associates
        http://MichaelHerman.com
        http://OpenSpaceWorld.org

        On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        My pithy statement about how self-organization works was not
        meant to be a tossed off reduction, but rather it has
        important consequences for managing.

        Enabling constraints can indeed be very rigid. And in
        accepting the invitation to step into that container, one can
        make a conscious choice to confront the stress and see what
        comes of it. Deadlines, limited resources, restrictive
        mandates, policies and procedures are all constraints that are
        “forced’ upon people at work.  As a manager you can always
        frame these as an invitation: “your mission, should you choose
        to accept it, is…”  As a participant you can choose to accept
        it. Or not.

        People who write sonnets accept constraints.  monks and nuns
        accept constraints.  Musicians accept constraints.  Athletes
        accept constraints.  People who live on islands accept
        constraints.  The idea here is that in accepting sometimes
        extremely limiting constraints, you are forced to go deeper in
        your work. AS a manager if you also offer invitations into a
        constrained space, you may indeed create the conditions for
        some amazing things to happen.  “You have $3000 to work with
        on your prototype, but you have to work with two other people
and get it done in two days. Do you accept this invitation? OK! Go!”

        The truly magnificent Open Space gatherings I have been a part
        of in my life have had a clear set of constraints (sometimes
        rigid and narrow, sometimes broad but still defined, as in “we
        are talking about anything you want, but if if you want to
        stop doing social services and start building Volvos, that
        isn’t going to make it into the plan…”) and a clear
        invitation.  Good invitations are both attractors AND
        boundaries.  They require intention to accept them; buy-in, if
        you will. Peter Block says that a good invitation contains a
        barrier…people have to work to accept it.  They have to
        prioritize it to participate.  When those conditions are in
        place, “Whoever comes are the right people” loses all of its
        sometimes fatalistic tone: we don’t merely accept folks with a
        shrug and a “I guess this is the best we could do.”  Instead
        we see participants as folks who have decided to give
        something up in order to be there.  And that sharpens our
        attention to one another, creates the conditions for mutual
        respect and engagement, and gives creative and powerful
        conversations a real chance.

        By contrast imposing an invitation and constraints on people
        rarely works.  An invitation that uses a sexy door prize with
        a genuine attractor is a bribe: “come to this conversation you
        don’t want to have and win an iPad!".  And invitation that
        forces people to show up because “that’s what I’m paying you
        for” is coercion.

        When Michael Herman and I did trainings years ago, the
        training guide he put together had this Kurt Hahn quote on the
        cover: "There are three ways of trying to win the young. There
        is persuasion. There is compulsion and there is attraction.
        You can preach at them; that is a hook without a worm. You can
        say "you must volunteer." That is the devil. And you can tell
        them, "you are needed" that hardly ever fails.”  This is good
        advice.

        It’s easy, when your system is already command and control, to
        end up doing things like badly.  The art of invitation IS the
        art of Open Space. It’s a good practice to learn.

        Chris

            On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Ron,

            So interesting:

            You wrote one thing below, and that said, I know you mean
            you'd *_stay_* if it actually worked:

            "But I promised to give it six months and if the team *had
            _not_ decided* that XP was a load of rubbish and were
            still doing it after 6 months *I will leave* and find
            another job where sanity still rained. "



            Freedom
            -------

            The key is freedom. The key (I think) is that YOUR
            commitment was to an "experiment for 6 months", not "a
            forced march until further notice" .... at least in
            /_your_/ mind. In your mind you were (and are)
            */free/*...to "Law-of-2-Feet it" out of there !

            And so this is some small part of the (freedom) key: make
            a ....


              * "a commitment to experiment" and then to
              * "inspect results" and then
              * "throw away what is not working" and
              * "keep doing what is working and do more of that" and
              * "do more experiments."


            In other words, to actually implement Agile ideas in an
            Agile way.




            "Until Further Notice"
            -----------------

            Last time I checked, typical Agile adoptions are of the
            forced-march, "until further notice" variety. Hello?

            Let's see: If the "until further notice" style of Agile
            adoption actually worked, then (in theory at least) we
            could now joyfully point to tens of thousands of
            verifiable, happy, healthy, whole, genuine, authentic,
            high-engagement Agile adoptions. Right? It would so be
            easy to locate ten thousand of them...if it actually
            worked in the long run....

            Houston...we have a problem?



            Committing to Emergence  (aka "experimentation and
            adaptation")
            --------------------------------------------------------

            Commit to /an experiment to be inspected/. So simple. Even
            joyful!
            Ironically, this IS the Agile mindset, but ... /not to be
            used when actually implementing Agile in large
            organizations/ apparently !

            Is self-organization what actually scales? If so, why are
            we using any other approach?


            The alternative-- a mandated and forced march to process
            change-- is standard, and often the source of many sorrows.

            I really, really , REALLY like using Open Space in new
            Agile adoptions. Because it actually works. And also like
            using Open Space in troubled Agile adoptions, of which I
            notice, there seems to be no shortage of supply.

            The good news is, we are getting the [invitation] meme out
            there into the Agile world. We invite everyone to give it
            a try !


            (If you like this rant, you may also enjoy:
            http://www.openspaceagility.com/about)


            Daniel

            PS Ron, nice suit !




            On 9/1/15 11:22 AM, Ron Quartel wrote:

                This debate happens in the world of agile also.
                Specifically when we talk about Extreme Programming
                over Scrum. Should a team be told to do the Extreme
                Programming practices or do we invite them to try them
                is a debate that rages again and again. (Extreme
                programming is a very disciplined way of developing
                software while scrum prescribes no disciplines.)

                The challenge with Extreme Programming is that the
                practices are counter intuitive and many will find
                them distasteful. E.g. why do I have to pair program
                with a junior developer? That will slow me down and we
                will get less work done.

                I don't claim to have an answer to force vs. invite
                but I can share my story on how I came to love Extreme
                Programming (XP).

                XP was forced on my dev team. We were given a new dev
                manager who said we are going to do XP. If you didn't
                like it you can use the law of two feet to leave the
                company. (Not those words exactly but I'm sure you get
                the drift.) Now I loved the team I was with, the place
                I worked and the work we were doing but absolutely
                hated XP. But I promised to give it six months and if
                the team had not decided that XP was a load of rubbish
                and were still doing it after 6 months I will leave
                and find another job where sanity still rained. I
                hated everything about XP and agile and it took me way
                out of my comfort zone as a software developer. But
                then somewhere during the six months the sense of it
                started to dawn on me and I actually started enjoying
                it. By the end of six months I was a fan and am now an
                evangelist for XP. I like finding the haters and
                assure them it's OK to hate XP. When they get it, they
                become the biggest advocates.

                So was it wrong to have XP forced on me? I will leave
                that up to you to decide. I often wonder if I would
                have ever come around to agile and especially XP if it
                had not been forced on me.

                An analogy I have to learning XP is learning downhill
                skiing. There is a point where you have to do the
                unintuitive and lean down the slope. Your body is
                screaming NO but your ski instructor is telling you
                that is how you do it. Turns out he is right but you
                have to get through that disbelief and discomfort to
                get to the other side. OK that is forcing myself after
                he invited me to try it - so maybe there needs to be a
                little of both?

                Ron Quartel

                FAST Agile <http://fast-agile.com/> - An agile
                software process incorporating Open Space Technology

                On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                "Is it accurate to say that some self organizing
                happens by invitation and some happens by
                coercion/force? "


                Great question Lucas!


                The [invitation] wall-poster you suggest feels
                wall-worthy to me, so long as no one is obligated to
                examine it... or even look at it.


                My turn to ask a question: What might a world "void of
                manipulation" and "replete with invitation" actually
                look like?


                Daniel


                On 8/31/15 9:57 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList wrote:

                    Hi All,

                    Is it accurate to say that some self organizing
                    happens by invitation and some happens by
                    coercion/force?

                    For example, from the perspective of someone who
                    lives outside of Iraq, the way the Ba'ath Party
                    took charge of Iraq through a coup seems like an
                    example of self-organizing by force to us, because
                    we're outside the system of Iraq.  I welcome some
                    thoughts on this.

                    Over the past few months (and working with Michael
                    Herman for VOSonOS) I've seen that the spirit of
                    invitation shouldn't end with the writing of the
                    invitation, and instead it should be present
                    throughout the open space. When someone posts a
                    topic on the marketplace wall, they are inviting
                    others to a conversation, not taking over a time
                    slot (like having a coup and taking over a small
                    country).

                    When someone wants to be a "dictator" of their
                    open space session, yes others can use their two
                    feet and walk out, but that comes at a cost to the
                    social fabric of the organization. A better
                    outcome would be that the would-be dictator holds
                    a welcoming space from the start.  So I'd
                    recommend that another sign worth posting on the
                    wall near "Law of Two Feet" would be "Spirit of
                    Invitation". I think it's wall-worthy, do you?


                    Lucas Cioffi

                    Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>

                    Charlottesville, VA

                    Mobile: 917-528-1831 <tel:917-528-1831>




                    On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Paul Levy via
                    OSList <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".

                    We are the selves that organise.

                    Beautiful.

                    _______________________________________________

                    OSList mailing list

                    To post send emails [email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>

                    To unsubscribe send an email 
[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>

                    To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:

                    
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org

                    Past archives can be viewed 
here:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

--
                Daniel Mezick, President

                New Technology Solutions Inc.

                (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)

                Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
                <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
                <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.

                Examine my new book: The Culture Game
                <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>:
                Tools for the Agile Manager.

                Explore Agile Team Training
                <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and
                Coaching.
                <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>

                Explore the Agile Boston
                <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.


                _______________________________________________
                OSList mailing list
                To post send emails to [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                To unsubscribe send an email to
                [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
                
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
                Past archives can be viewed here:
                http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

--
            Daniel Mezick, President

            New Technology Solutions Inc.

            (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)

            _Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>_. Blog
            <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
            <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.

            Examine my new book: The Culture Game
            <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>_:
            Tools for the Agile Manager_.

            Explore Agile Team Training
            <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and
            Coaching.
            <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>

            Explore the Agile Boston
            <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.

            _______________________________________________
            OSList mailing list
            To post send emails to [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            To unsubscribe send an email to
            [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
            http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
            Past archives can be viewed here:
            http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]


        _______________________________________________
        OSList mailing list
        To post send emails to [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To unsubscribe send an email to
        [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
        http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
        Past archives can be viewed here:
        http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]


        _______________________________________________
        OSList mailing list
        To post send emails to [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To unsubscribe send an email to
        [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
        http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
        Past archives can be viewed here:
        http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]




--
    David


    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  |
    703-939-1777 <tel:703-939-1777> | www.change-fusion.com
    <http://www.change-fusion.com/>


    _______________________________________________
    OSList mailing list
    To post send emails to [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    To unsubscribe send an email to
    [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
    http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
    Past archives can be viewed here:
    http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]




_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to [email protected]
To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.

Examine my new book:The Culture Game <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile Manager.

Explore Agile Team Training <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>

Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.

_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to [email protected]
To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

Reply via email to