Hi Lucas,

Thanks for the "hat tip" around "Open Space in the Wild". I started composing an OSList message a couple weeks ago which isn't quite ready for release, but I do believe that OST has had a lot of children (some legitimate, and some maybe not so much). Barcamp is definitely a child of Open Space, as is the whole unconference "movement".

There is a difference between unconferences and barcamps. Unconferences can include many forms of participant driven content - including collecting session suggestions weeks before the event with some kind of web assisted topic voting by the participant community. It can even include Lightning Talks, like Ignite events. I think the way many Hackathons are explicit unconferences too. And thus can trace their ancestry from OST.

A few years ago at one of Kaliya Hamlin's OST conferences I met Dave Nielsen, the founder of CloudCamp, an unconference for cloud computing enthusiasts. Dave chose OST for his CloudCamp originally, but added some things to address issues (just like Peggy Holman added Appreciative Inquiry, Warm up Talks, and World Cafe' to her Journalism That Matters conferences). Dave Nielsen came up with an interesting innovation called an "UnPanel" - where the crowd self-organizes the panelists and the questions. He talked about it at an Ignite event, http://igniteshow.com/videos/unpanel-one-way-get-your-unconference-started

Originally, a "barcamp" was a DIRECT copy of O'Reilly's FooCamps - a private invitation only multi day party/unconference that actually includes tents and camping on the O'Reilly publisher's headquarters. The BarCamp just wasn't private, and was produced so that anyone could host one. Just like Open Space, a BarCamp had multiple locations, and multiple time slots, for people to write in their sessions.

If anyone is hosting a BarCamp and allowing pre-scheduled presentations - they're violating BarCamp rules.

    "6th Rule: No pre-scheduled presentations, no tourists."

http://barcamp.org/w/page/405173/TheRulesOfBarCamp

My own Open Space story is through hearing about FooCamp, and then learning about BarCamp, back in 2007. Techies in Montana wanted a BarCamp, and I agreed to get one started. But then I learned about OST through Kaliya Hamlin at the huge annual JavaOne conference in San Francisco. And then was trained by Lisa Heft. So even though I called my Montana OST a BarCamp, and I registered my events as a BarCamp.org, I did it every year as a bona-fide OST, even mentioning Harrison Owen every time. No BarCamp police came and shut me down - mostly because I refused to be a Nazi with the BarCamp "no tourist" rule, which means everyone is supposed to present, or help out somehow. Completely unnecessary!

Back in '07 the BarCamp brand was pretty fresh and active, with a larger number of North America events. But I got so tired of saying my Missoula BarCamp event wasn't about drinking alcohol (Bar's), nor about Camping. So we no longer call it a BarCamp. And from what I can see, most of the originally juice has flown the coup out of the BarCamp brand. But there's lots of juice in Unconferences. More to come.

    Regards,
    Harold

On 9/16/15 12:57 PM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList wrote:
Hi All,

I want to merge my post from 11 days ago (below) into this thread, because it relates to unconferences/barcamps and OS. The post got stuck in the OS List Moderation Queue due to the size of attachments, so now the attachments are links instead.

Is there a difference between unconferences and barcamps? I have seen them used interchangeably. Here's the post from September 5th to add to this conversation:
-----

    Hat tip to Harold for bringing up the idea of "Open Space in the
    Wild" on a recent Tuesday OS Hotline call.  Unconferences are one
    such form that OS takes outside of the OS community. Hat tip to
    Tricia for hosting the Tuesday OS Hotline. If you haven't attended
    one yet, look for the announcements on Monday/Tuesday on this
    list.  They are lots of fun!

    So here's the topic I'd like to discuss on this thread:
    I understand that unconferences (aka barcamps) evolved/descended
    from open space.  It seems to be an estranged relationship where
    many of the hundreds of people who run unconferences have never
    heard of open space.  From my personal experience and from the
    opinions of others who have held unconferences, they vary in
    quality from poor quality to excellent, depending on many factors
    such as the level of preparation that

    In this thread, I'd like to ask, "What are the main differences
    between unconferences and OS?"  Here's a start to the list of
    differences that I can see:

        Some unconferences start with a slide presentation (an example
        is in the links below), and this never happens in OS.
        Unconferences frequently (but not always?) start with
        theater-style seating rather than an opening circle.
        Unconferences have everyone give 3-word introductions.
        Unconferences almost always (from my experience) last one day
        or less.
        During the closing people will often share "key takeaways"
        from the sessions whereas during an OS, people usually share
        reflections about the overall experience (I think)
        Unconferences rarely mention the terms "butterfly" and the
        "bumble bee" (at least from the 20 that I've attended)
        OS has more of a griefwork element (there is a problem/crisis
        or the situation on the ground is changing and something is
        ending and we need to figure out what comes next) whereas
        unconferences are more about birds of a feather getting
        together.  Said another way, OS is more frequently about
        collective action and unconferences are more about building
        social cohesion and individual learning.
        Any other key differences?  These are just my impressions.

    Another question on my mind: "When is an unconference a more
    appropriate tool than an open space?"

    So that you can understand the language of one breed of
    unconference organizers, here are some of the resources that
    EdCamp (a large unconference series) shares with its organizers:

        Checklist for how to run an EdCamp unconference:
        
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F4nEotV_Gab-QFIJk_EJSeUOeKTVVV598_jeAhanDjg/edit
        A diagram for EdCamp which describes tips for how a
        participant can make the most of their experience
<https://qiqochat.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/how-to-maximize-the-edcamp-experience-1.png> (I didn't make this, but I uploaded it to my WordPress site
        since it was too big to attach to an OSList message)
        A slide presentation which is used to begin EdCamp
        unconferences
        
<https://qiqochat.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sample-edcamp-intro-2.pptx>
        A mish-mash of tips and resources for organizing an EdCamp
        <http://www.edutopia.org/edcamp-organizer-resources>

Lucas Cioffi
Charlottesville, VA
Mobile: 917-528-1831




On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    "Lean Coffee" is yet-another derivative of Open Space. It's
    simple, fun, and useful- like OST itself.

    Here is the origin story:

    www.leancoffee.org <http://www.leancoffee.org/>
    Lean Coffee started in Seattle in 2009. Jim Benson and Jeremy
    Lightsmith wanted to start a group that would discuss Lean
    techniques in knowledge work – but didn’t want to start a whole
    new cumbersome organization with steering committees, speakers,
    and such. They wanted a group that did not rely on anything other
    than people showing up and wanting to learn or create.


    Apparently, (almost) everybody believes Lean Coffee is in fact a
    stripped-down "light" version of OST for smaller groups:
    
https://www.google.com/search?q=www.leancoffee.org+open+space&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

    Daniel
    www.openspaceagility.com/about
    <http://www.openspaceagility.com/about>



    On 9/16/15 9:40 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
    Bar Camp history does not support the idea that BarCamp precedes
    OST development:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp#History
    The first BarCamp was held in Palo Alto, California
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Alto,_California>, from
    August 19–21, 2005

    So interesting also, that the name derives (indirectly) from
    "foobar"...ha
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp#History
    The name /BarCamp/ is a playful allusion to the event's origins,
    with reference to the programmer slang term, foobar
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar>: BarCamp arose as an
    open-to-the-public alternative to Foo Camp
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Camp>, which is an annual
    invitation-only participant-driven conference hosted by Tim
    O'Reilly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_O%27Reilly>.

    "Foo camp" which preceded Bar Camp also came much later than OST:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Camp
    The first FOO Camp was held in August, 2003, and had
    approximately 200 attendees.^

    Daniel
    www.openspaceagility.com/about
    <http://www.openspaceagility.com/about>



    On 9/16/15 4:53 AM, Martin Roell via OSList wrote:
    Hey Arno,

    Arno Baltin via OSList wrote:
    I have been assisting a group of professionals at organising their
    annual meetings for couple of years. These have been unconferences in
    different forms - Open Space, World Cafe, ... This time they chosed Bar
    Camp.
    I have no experience with that. Reading through some materials, appears
    it is more like a technically well supported Open Space which is a
    preference of IT  people and a predecessor of OS.
    I would appreciate any hints on how to facilitate a Bar Camp.
    It will be a 2 day meeting of (maximum) 100 participants.
    Barcamp is like a badly done OpenSpace with some constraints that make
    it harder to get work done.

    So _basically_, if you just open space, like you normally would, but
    calling the whole thing "BarCamp" (and saying the word "BarCamp" a lot,
    Barcamping-People seem to like that), all will be well. (Or, in your
    context, simply drop that, open space, and let people get to work.)

    (Barcamps have a tendency for a "facilitator" to "help" people post
    "sessions" to the marketplace. They also have a ritual where after a
    person announces a "session" (it's always a "session", never an
    "issue"), the "facilitator" asks the "participants" for a show of
    interest ("raise your hand if you are interested in attemding this
    session") so that they can then "plan" better (many hands: you get a big
    room assigned). There is no circle at the beginning, and none at the
    end. A lot of "teaching" takes places - extroverted people "giving"
    sessions to the less extroverted one, much less walking-around, less
    spontaneity. If "teaching" is the goal, they actually work decently.)

    You'll probably get some slack from hardcore barcampers if you don't do
    all of that; and you'll step on people's toes for not following other
    barcamp-rituals, but I'd still go for it in the context you described.
    Check in with your sponsor why they want "BarCamp" - what does that mean
    for them, what's the important thing in that for them.

    Best,

    Martin

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