Greetings Andrea, All,

At the Agile Coach Camp in DC this past August, Leslie Zucker leads a very interesting session on movement.

In that session, I show up skeptical. Leslie walks us through some very big ideas about movement and challenges us to try them, in the here-and-now, experimenting and experiencing movement...in part as a technique for approaching problem-solving.

At first I am skeptical, after about 2-3 minutes I'm experiencing some rather pleasant aha-moments and nice surprises that invalidate some of my current beliefs about solving problems.

So interesting.

Daniel
http://www.DanielMezick.com

On 10/15/15 2:01 PM, Andrea Chiou via OSList wrote:
Hi Skye,

How thrilling that you got to meet David! I didn't know of him until probably 2010. But I've been immersing myself ever since.

I've just come back from a gathering of Clean facilitators in England which I briefly blogged about on my most recent blog post (http://adaptivecollaboration.com)

Note the last picture of the Whirlygig contraption at the end of the post. The idea being you ask to be positioned spatially before being asked questions. David built that contraption! He was a bit eccentric and innovative and had great success. :-)

Anyway, Tricia wants more exposure to Clean Language - so if I arrange a call to do such an informal session - I will invite folks on this list.

Skye - I am open to some other options to if that doesn't suit you :-)

Best,

Andrea

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On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Skye Hirst <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks ANdrea for this reference and Thanks Tricia for this conversation. Andrea, any chance we could talk further about your experience with David Grove, I've been a fan of his for years after first seeing him in a workshop he led I had the privilege to attend. I hope we can find a way to talk further on your experience with him. And thanks for reference to Phillip Harland's work too. Skye

On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Andrea Chiou via OSList <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Tricia,

    As a faciiltator, you and others know that there is usually a
    stated problem in (someone's) mind.  If one gets the problem
    written on a piece of paper - and one asks the owner of that
    problem (which as written could be invisible to everyone else if
    in a group, or shared) to place that problem somewhere in the
    room or outside. Then to ask the person to place themselves where
    they need to be.... Then the facilitator can ask 'clean space'
    questions about the space between - One of the questions  is: and
    what do you know about that from there? (the answers to those
    specific questions might turn out to cause the person being
    facilitated to 'move' or to place the problem in a different
    location, after which you would cycle back to the questions
    anew)...  it is a fascinating methodology... using the psychic
    space between...

    I am a novice interested person - it is something that evolved
    from David Grove's work in the therapeutic world - and is
    intensely interesting to me.  He evolved it after years of
    working using Clean Language questions with trauma patients - and
    it was also quite powerful. Unfortunately he died rather suddenly
    in 2008. Also, he didn't write much - because he was so busy
    trying to perfect what he was already so good at - by practicing.
    He wasn't interested in writing much and left that to others who
    followed him around...

    The Power of Six, by Phillip Harland is quite the definitive
    introduction to the technique.  We not only have embodied
    feelings, but we perceive space in different ways as part of our
    thinking - though much is unconscious.   This technique surfaces
    so much by acknowledging space as an attribute....

    Throwing this into the mix if anyone wants to explore or learn
    along those lines...

    Best,

    Andrea

    On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList
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    wrote:

        Hi all!

        I am writing today to learn from you and invite you to
        contribute to a learning journey into the world of "mindful
        movement".

        For the past year I have been on a journey to learn about and
        experiment with the practice of "mindful  movement" - as a
        practitioner and a facilitator.

        I am interested to learn if any of you "use" any movement or
        "body awareness" practices in your work as facilitators,
        coaches, etc, or for yourself or in other worlds that you may
        inhabit.

        Additionally, I am curious if you have any interest in
        experimenting with incorporating movement or embodied
        awareness into your work. I won't suggest for what
        applications or in what manner yet, as this is part of my
        open-ended R&D process. I have some ideas, but I want to
        learn your impressions, experiences, needs, and questions first.

        If you would like to share anything in this thread, or if you
        would like to have a separate email/video/phone chat with me
        - I would LOVE to speak with you :)

        Ultimately, I am looking to engage with a handful of "people
        who work with people" to experiment with some movement
        practices and see if we can develop anything of value that
        can be built upon and passed on to others. At the same time a
        colleague of mine, Magalie of Dancing Without Borders, will
        be doing the same thing with a group of people and we will be
        comparing notes. Magalie's focus is on working 1:1 with
        "visionary leaders" focused on "new paradigm" work...though I
        do believe that is all of us!

        If this does not make sense in any way, please do not
        hesitate to ask me for clarification - many thanks in advance!

        Tricia Chirumbole

        Facilitator. Coach. Champion.

        Co-Creative Culture Building
        Mojo Collaborative
        www.mojocollaborative.com <http://www.mojocollaborative.com>

        571-232-0942 <tel:571-232-0942>
        skype: tricia.chirumbole
        twitter: @themojozone

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