I have seen people reject such help from others, especially with considerable verve from folks that one might consider differentially abled. One thing I have never seen is someone writing a thought for someone else. What happens regularly with younger children is that they will huddle and discuss an issue that they want to put on the paper.

Considering the attempt to expand time and space for the force of selforganistion to show up in an OST event more clearly accompanied with some manifestation of selforganisation being the mode for participants I wonder what the least controlling, least prescreptive... mode might be for facilitation.

Regarding the offering of issues I tell people very shortly after I have started my introduciton what I will invite them to later on... and I actually go through all the steps (walking to the center, getting on the floor, jotting down an issue, announcing it to the group, walking up to the bulletin board and posting it)... and then continue with my introduction. At the point of inviting for issues I have reduced my words to almost zero but I do make an inviting gesture towards the center...

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 19.08.2016 15:28, MK Vidrine via OSList wrote:
I wonder if there would be any difference in results between inviting
people to ask their neighbors to help, and inviting people to offer help
to their neighbors? I'm imagining something like, "When you grab a piece
of paper, you could also get one for someone else nearby. After you
write down what you've got in mind, see if you can write down a thought
for a neighbor also- let's get as many written as we can."

-MK

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Jennifer Hurley via OSList
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

    I often say something in the opening like "if it's difficult for you
    to bend over or you think your handwriting is too bad, ask one of
    your neighbors to help." This also gives an easy out to anyone who
    may be illiterate. I think it also fosters a sense of camaraderie.
    But it doesn't make it 100% as easy for someone with physical or
    literacy problems to participate, so it may not be the best answer.
    I really resist tables inside the circle, though. I've had to do
    several events that way, and there is definitely a negative impact
    on the energy in the room.

    Jennifer Hurley
    Hurley-Franks & Associates
    267-971-4598 <tel:267-971-4598>
    Sent from my iPhone

    On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    In the many OST's I've participated in or helped open myself, I've
    encountered this complaint about having to bend over to pick up
    the pens and the papers in only two instances. Both of which were
    Universities. In both cases, the leading edge of the complaint
    seemed to have to do with women's dresses, but I also heard
    something about being "able" prejudiced.

    The first University chose to put some tables outside the circle
    with some papers and markers. The second one is thinking they will
    wheel in a table after the opening into the center, which seems
    energetically disruptive.

    Have others encountered this? How did you deal with it?

        Thanks!
        Harold

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