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Re: 24th World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) Conference (Alan Stewart via OSList) 2. Re: 24th World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) Conference (Alan Stewart via OSList) 3. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? (Lucas Cioffi via OSList) 4. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? (Birgitt Williams via OSList) 5. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? (Harrison Owen via OSList) 6. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17 (PAT MOLL? via OSList) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 09:12:19 +0930 From: Alan Stewart via OSList <[email protected]> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]>, "Eva Haydee G. Alipustain" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSList] 24th World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) Conference Message-ID: <caguxzw_+yajds6h03yrk30qqzxgzheokj8q_zwthchgyerk...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > G'day All > > To enhance your awareness of this *forthcoming wondrous event > <http://www.wosonos2016.com/>* I have been requested by the organising > committee in Manila to help promote it to Aussies. > Which I have done to people on diverse Downunder lists bcc to 'Stalwarts' I refer to Here is a copy for more widespread notice teeeappy to do having attended five WOSonOS gatherings, starting with Monterey in California in 1998 and the most recent in St Petersburg in Florida in 2013. And would say that they have all been great experiencing through learning > more of what an impactful process OST is in many contexts, particularly > highly complex and conflicted. There are increasing numbers of these > situations, for which so much more could be done effectively were OST > brought to bear. > > *If you are looking to extend your understanding of OST and its widespread > applications you would do well to registering for this 'in our patch' > event. * > > Equally memorable, and personally beneficial, from my participating in the > WOS gatherings have been the fine friends I have made from every one. These > stalwarts are scattered all around our little planet, 3rd from the sun. I > have had much joy from keeping connected with these lively spirits in > diverse ways including Skype, QiqoChat and sometimes - gloriously- in > person. > > *How good is that, keeping in close contact with like passioned fellow > Spaceniks, for now nearly 20 years? <smile> * > > Could your hopping off to Manila have this kind of impact on your 'self > organising' way of being too? <smile> > > To add: Having visited the Philippines twice I can assure you that the > welcome and hospitality you will likely experience there will be > 'incomparable'. > > *Please pass this on to people in your orbit who are already in tune with > OST and all it can mean. or could be if they knew of this opportunity. * > > Looking forward. > > Go well > > Alan > > > > > > *Alan Stewart, PhD Social Artist Facilitator of conversations that matter > and participatory fun **Senior Fulbright Scholar* > > > *Em: [email protected] <[email protected]> Web: * > *www.multimindsolutions.com* <http://www.multimindsolutions.com> > * Blog: **Conversare* <http://conversare.net> > > *Mob: **0413848680* <0413848680>* +61413848680 <%2B61413848680>* > <http://conversare.net> > > > > > *"All progress takes place outside the comfort zone." * *Michael John > Bobak* > > > > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160829/333039e1/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 09:38:35 +0930 From: Alan Stewart via OSList <[email protected]> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]> Cc: Sharon Berlin-Chao <[email protected]>, "Eva Haydee G. Alipustain" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSList] 24th World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) Conference Message-ID: <caguxzw98te-6iesoqqgv4nbcridoaz_cmunnnr_zvmb5pjq...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" G'day All To enhance awareness of this *forthcoming wondrous event <http://www.wosonos2016.com/>* I have been requested by the organising committee in Manila to help promote it to Aussies. Which I have done by posting to people on diverse Downunder lists, bcc to 'stalwarts' I refer to. Here is a copy for more widespread notice. I am most happy to do this having attended five WOSonOS gatherings, starting with Monterey in California in 1998 and the most recent in St Petersburg in Florida in 2013. And would say that they have all been great experiencing through learning more of what an impactful process OST is in many contexts, particularly highly complex and conflicted. There are increasing numbers of these situations, for which so much more could be done effectively were OST brought to bear. *If you are looking to extend your understanding of OST and its widespread applications you would do well to register for this 'in our patch' event. * Equally memorable, and personally beneficial, from my participating in the WOS gatherings have been the fine friends I have made from every one. These stalwarts are scattered all around our little planet, 3rd from the sun. I have had much joy from keeping connected with these lively spirits in diverse ways including Skype, QiqoChat and sometimes - gloriously- in person. *How good is that, keeping in close contact with like passioned fellow Spaceniks, for now nearly 20 years? <smile> * Could your hopping off to Manila have this kind of impact on your 'self organising' way of being too? <smile> To add: Having visited the Philippines twice I can assure you that the welcome and hospitality you will likely experience there will be 'incomparable'. *Please pass this on to people in your orbit who are already in tune with OST and all it can mean. or could be if they knew of this opportunity. * Looking forward. Go well Alan *Alan Stewart, PhD Social Artist Facilitator of conversations that matter and participatory fun Senior Fulbright Scholar* *Em: [email protected] <[email protected]> Web: * *www.multimindsolutions.com* <http://www.multimindsolutions.com> * Blog: **Conversare* <http://conversare.net> *Mob: **0413848680* <0413848680>* +61413848680 <%2B61413848680>* * "All progress takes place outside the comfort zone." * *Michael John Bobak* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160829/6fb342e1/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 22:08:01 -0400 From: Lucas Cioffi via OSList <[email protected]> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? Message-ID: <caej+rxqjabuytd56u0bhsj0-2b5hvgsv-wbwc_deqejneo3...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi All, thanks for the comments. Here are some replies for Harrison and Birgitt: Hello, Harrison, you asked what unique capabilities online tools have. Here are some ideas about what current technology can do to help OS... - It's possible for an online OS participant to see all participants in each breakout space (and the notes being taken in each space) so that they can make a more informed decision about whether to exercise the Law of Two Feet (a.k.a. Law of One Click). - It's possible for someone to bring in additional resources, facts, etc into a session while it is happening (the downside is that they are also more distracted than they would be in-person). - Connecting by video chat has some advantages (cost, environmental impact, accessibility, etc). There are also disadvantages like distraction?wait a minute I need to send out a tweet on Twitter; ok I'm back?and the possibility of less personal connection to other participants. Here are some ideas about what future technology can do to help OS... - Multilingual conversations will become possible. For example, one participant is speaking in Chinese and it's instantly translated so that other participants can listen in their native language. - You'll be able to hold an online OS with "robots". I know this sounds crazy, but it's coming. For example, in addition to creating an invitation, you can also "create" one or more virtual participants, selecting their personality type, expertise, etc. They'd be listening and processing all that is said and they would "speak" when it's their turn as if you had a person with that personality and expertise level. Think of a robot playing the Devil's Advocate for a corporation; it could very well save the organization in some circumstances. As long as all human participants know that there's a robot participating, I see no harm in this. It's like having a pet that speaks, and that has it's pros and cons :) Then again, some day, we might be the robots' pets! - Virtual reality will enable us to participate in a much more liberated way. "Virtual reality" can already create an immersive experience; you can strap on a pair of goggles and it looks like you're in a room with someone else or a group of people or riding a roller coaster (or a wave!). When you turn your head to the left, the video feed on your screen adjusts so that you get the sensation that you are actually looking to the left. The scenery is interactive in 360 degrees. How is this useful? Well, there's a discussion on OSList right now about people who lack the ability to pick up the pens and paper in the center of the circle. When people can assume a new virtual "body" there will be no limit to what they can do in the space. Someone who has one skin color can wear a different skin color if they like. Someone can speak as an endangered species. Sounds crazy, I know! There are many possibilities, and many potential problems as you can imagine. - I'm sure others can add to this list... Hello, Birgitt, you asked what I'd like to create. I'd like to create something that people will find useful. I searched the OSList archives and found a fascinating thread from 2012 started by Suzanne Daigle. To get there, visit the August 2012 Archive <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/thread.html> and scroll down to "Conversation today with Brian Burt of MaestroConference". There are so many great ideas from so many talented facilitators on that thread. I found one of Lisa Heft's responses <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527642.html> and one of Michael Herman's responses <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527641.html> to be especially helpful. That conversation lists all the elements that are necessary to be present to classify an online event as OS. The part that's missing from that conversation is what the user experience would feel like. Four years have passed since that 2012 thread and many on this list have had plenty of experiences with online tools that lend themselves to being used for Online OS (Tuesday OS hotline, Open Space Online, Zoom, Sococo, MaestroConference, QiqoChat, etc). Each of these tools has strengths and weaknesses. *Rather than taking a tool-centered approach (how close could we get to OS using what's already available), I'd like to take a moment to invite anyone to share what a great user experience would feel like, gather these ideas on OSList, and then any of these tool makers could build that into their platforms.* Knowing what we now know of online user attention spans, it's got to be simple. Example: 1. Participant arrives on a page and sees _____________. 2. Next the participant _______________. Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat.com Charlottesville, VA Mobile: 917-528-1831 On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Lucas ? your comments as always are provocative. But maybe a bit too > literal? > > > > My thought is ? replicating OS (as experienced by human beings in a > physical room) is a worthwhile undertaking. The deeper task, I would think, > is to open some new space that is available only online. Just as the > ?normal? (space/time) OST tends to blow people away ? what is the > cyber-equivalent? > > > > I don?t have a clue of an answer. But I do remember ?way back when? ? > sitting at my kitchen table with a TI Silent 700 plugged into a phone > through acoustical couplings. Suddenly ?it? came alive and electronic > beings from all over the planet for the most part (actually I am not really > sure where they came from) populated my table, life, reality?. Space hadn?t > opened. Space/time was transformed. > > > > What can you do for me baby? I guess that is the question. > > > > Harrison > > > > Winter Address > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > 301-365-2093 > > > > Summer Address > > 189 Beaucauire Ave > > Camden, ME 04843 > > 207 763-3261 > > > > Websites > > www.openspaceworld.com<http://www.openspaceworld.com> > > www.ho-image.com<http://www.ho-image.com> > > > > *From:* OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf > Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList > *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:36 AM > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Subject:* [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? > > > > Hi All, > > > > I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest > online Open Space experience using video chat. > > > > I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might > have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for > you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours. > > > > > > > > My... > > > > > > thoughts... > > > > > > are... > > > > > > down... > > > > > > below... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my rough thoughts: > > > > 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following: > > - where the opening circle is > - how many virtual breakout spaces there are > - who is in each virtual space right now > - what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / > marketplace / idea wall) > > 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat. > > > > *Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:* > > 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to > all participants. > > > > 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak. > > > > 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away > for a moment"). > > > > *Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have > in mind!* > > > Lucas Cioffi > > Founder, QiqoChat > > Charlottesville, VA > > Mobile: 917-528-1831 > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160828/e09b7fc4/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:50:00 +0000 From: Birgitt Williams via OSList <[email protected]> To: Lucas Cioffi <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? Message-ID: <cakf340gothy4mv2zjaneniyfcbjpy7iacmtdwgfkbabucdl...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thank you Lucas. And please feel free to ignore my next queries/thoughts if they don't spark any energy in you. You have given a thorough answer as it is. Here are the questions that come to me in reading what you have written. -what is your definition of useful and to whom? I appreciate that this is at the root of your creative surge. -in a world in which artificial intelligence and its use of big data is already mastering predictability, and since it is possible for artificial intelligence to predict what you might answer and how you might answer, where is the space for human exchange that you want to touch and bring usefulness to? -albeit a current trend (and apparent addiction) is for something that is quick and will capture attention or stands the risk of losing attention, might not the most useful offering to provide to be something that takes time, that is not quick, that provides space for people who are reflective, thoughtful to be in genuine conversations? -and a question we ask in our Working With OST learning modules: after examining all of the elements of an OST meeting, what, if stripped away from the list of elements, for you, would no longer qualify as an OST meeting? Warmly, Birgitt On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:09 PM Lucas Cioffi via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, thanks for the comments. Here are some replies for Harrison and > Birgitt: > > Hello, Harrison, you asked what unique capabilities online tools have. > > Here are some ideas about what current technology can do to help OS... > > - It's possible for an online OS participant to see all participants > in each breakout space (and the notes being taken in each space) so that > they can make a more informed decision about whether to exercise the Law of > Two Feet (a.k.a. Law of One Click). > - It's possible for someone to bring in additional resources, facts, > etc into a session while it is happening (the downside is that they are > also more distracted than they would be in-person). > - Connecting by video chat has some advantages (cost, environmental > impact, accessibility, etc). There are also disadvantages like > distraction?wait a minute I need to send out a tweet on Twitter; ok I'm > back?and the possibility of less personal connection to other participants. > > Here are some ideas about what future technology can do to help OS... > > - Multilingual conversations will become possible. For example, one > participant is speaking in Chinese and it's instantly translated so that > other participants can listen in their native language. > - You'll be able to hold an online OS with "robots". I know this > sounds crazy, but it's coming. For example, in addition to creating an > invitation, you can also "create" one or more virtual participants, > selecting their personality type, expertise, etc. They'd be listening and > processing all that is said and they would "speak" when it's their turn as > if you had a person with that personality and expertise level. Think of a > robot playing the Devil's Advocate for a corporation; it could very well > save the organization in some circumstances. As long as all human > participants know that there's a robot participating, I see no harm in > this. It's like having a pet that speaks, and that has it's pros and cons > :) Then again, some day, we might be the robots' pets! > - Virtual reality will enable us to participate in a much more > liberated way. "Virtual reality" can already create an immersive > experience; you can strap on a pair of goggles and it looks like you're in > a room with someone else or a group of people or riding a roller coaster > (or a wave!). When you turn your head to the left, the video feed on your > screen adjusts so that you get the sensation that you are actually looking > to the left. The scenery is interactive in 360 degrees. How is this > useful? Well, there's a discussion on OSList right now about people who > lack the ability to pick up the pens and paper in the center of the > circle. When people can assume a new virtual "body" there will be no limit > to what they can do in the space. Someone who has one skin color can wear > a different skin color if they like. Someone can speak as an endangered > species. Sounds crazy, I know! There are many possibilities, and many > potential problems as you can imagine. > - I'm sure others can add to this list... > > Hello, Birgitt, you asked what I'd like to create. I'd like to create > something that people will find useful. I searched the OSList archives and > found a fascinating thread from 2012 started by Suzanne Daigle. To get > there, visit the August 2012 Archive > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/thread.html> > and > scroll down to "Conversation today with Brian Burt of MaestroConference". > There are so many great ideas from so many talented facilitators on that > thread. I found one of Lisa Heft's responses > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527642.html> > and one of Michael Herman's responses > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527641.html> > to > be especially helpful. > > That conversation lists all the elements that are necessary to be present > to classify an online event as OS. The part that's missing from that > conversation is what the user experience would feel like. Four years have > passed since that 2012 thread and many on this list have had plenty of > experiences with online tools that lend themselves to being used for Online > OS (Tuesday OS hotline, Open Space Online, Zoom, Sococo, MaestroConference, > QiqoChat, etc). Each of these tools has strengths and weaknesses. > > *Rather than taking a tool-centered approach (how close could we get to OS > using what's already available), I'd like to take a moment to invite anyone > to share what a great user experience would feel like, gather these ideas > on OSList, and then any of these tool makers could build that into their > platforms.* > > Knowing what we now know of online user attention spans, it's got to be > simple. > > Example: > 1. Participant arrives on a page and sees _____________. > 2. Next the participant _______________. > > Lucas Cioffi > Founder, QiqoChat.com > Charlottesville, VA > Mobile: 917-528-1831 > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Lucas ? your comments as always are provocative. But maybe a bit too >> literal? >> >> >> >> My thought is ? replicating OS (as experienced by human beings in a >> physical room) is a worthwhile undertaking. The deeper task, I would think, >> is to open some new space that is available only online. Just as the >> ?normal? (space/time) OST tends to blow people away ? what is the >> cyber-equivalent? >> >> >> >> I don?t have a clue of an answer. But I do remember ?way back when? ? >> sitting at my kitchen table with a TI Silent 700 plugged into a phone >> through acoustical couplings. Suddenly ?it? came alive and electronic >> beings from all over the planet for the most part (actually I am not really >> sure where they came from) populated my table, life, reality?. Space hadn?t >> opened. Space/time was transformed. >> >> >> >> What can you do for me baby? I guess that is the question. >> >> >> >> Harrison >> >> >> >> Winter Address >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> 301-365-2093 >> >> >> >> Summer Address >> >> 189 Beaucauire Ave >> >> Camden, ME 04843 >> >> 207 763-3261 >> >> >> >> Websites >> >> www.openspaceworld.com<http://www.openspaceworld.com> >> >> www.ho-image.com<http://www.ho-image.com> >> >> >> >> *From:* OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:36 AM >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video >> chat? >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest >> online Open Space experience using video chat. >> >> >> >> I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might >> have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for >> you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> My... >> >> >> >> >> >> thoughts... >> >> >> >> >> >> are... >> >> >> >> >> >> down... >> >> >> >> >> >> below... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here are my rough thoughts: >> >> >> >> 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the >> following: >> >> - where the opening circle is >> - how many virtual breakout spaces there are >> - who is in each virtual space right now >> - what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / >> marketplace / idea wall) >> >> 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat. >> >> >> >> *Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:* >> >> 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to >> all participants. >> >> >> >> 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak. >> >> >> >> 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away >> for a moment"). >> >> >> >> *Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have >> in mind!* >> >> >> Lucas Cioffi >> >> Founder, QiqoChat >> >> Charlottesville, VA >> >> Mobile: 917-528-1831 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160829/40195712/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:36:54 -0400 From: Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]> To: "'Lucas Cioffi'" <[email protected]>, "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? Message-ID: <000601d2020b$2c39d890$84ad89b0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sounds like you are cooking! Harrison Winter Address 7808 River Falls Dr. Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucauire Ave Camden, ME 04843 207 763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com<http://www.openspaceworld.com> www.ho-image.com<http://www.ho-image.com> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucas Cioffi via OSList Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:08 PM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? Hi All, thanks for the comments. Here are some replies for Harrison and Birgitt: Hello, Harrison, you asked what unique capabilities online tools have. Here are some ideas about what current technology can do to help OS... * It's possible for an online OS participant to see all participants in each breakout space (and the notes being taken in each space) so that they can make a more informed decision about whether to exercise the Law of Two Feet (a.k.a. Law of One Click). * It's possible for someone to bring in additional resources, facts, etc into a session while it is happening (the downside is that they are also more distracted than they would be in-person). * Connecting by video chat has some advantages (cost, environmental impact, accessibility, etc). There are also disadvantages like distraction?wait a minute I need to send out a tweet on Twitter; ok I'm back?and the possibility of less personal connection to other participants. Here are some ideas about what future technology can do to help OS... * Multilingual conversations will become possible. For example, one participant is speaking in Chinese and it's instantly translated so that other participants can listen in their native language. * You'll be able to hold an online OS with "robots". I know this sounds crazy, but it's coming. For example, in addition to creating an invitation, you can also "create" one or more virtual participants, selecting their personality type, expertise, etc. They'd be listening and processing all that is said and they would "speak" when it's their turn as if you had a person with that personality and expertise level. Think of a robot playing the Devil's Advocate for a corporation; it could very well save the organization in some circumstances. As long as all human participants know that there's a robot participating, I see no harm in this. It's like having a pet that speaks, and that has it's pros and cons :) Then again, some day, we might be the robots' pets! * Virtual reality will enable us to participate in a much more liberated way. "Virtual reality" can already create an immersive experience; you can strap on a pair of goggles and it looks like you're in a room with someone else or a group of people or riding a roller coaster (or a wave!). When you turn your head to the left, the video feed on your screen adjusts so that you get the sensation that you are actually looking to the left. The scenery is interactive in 360 degrees. How is this useful? Well, there's a discussion on OSList right now about people who lack the ability to pick up the pens and paper in the center of the circle. When people can assume a new virtual "body" there will be no limit to what they can do in the space. Someone who has one skin color can wear a different skin color if they like. Someone can speak as an endangered species. Sounds crazy, I know! There are many possibilities, and many potential problems as you can imagine. * I'm sure others can add to this list... Hello, Birgitt, you asked what I'd like to create. I'd like to create something that people will find useful. I searched the OSList archives and found a fascinating thread from 2012 started by Suzanne Daigle. To get there, visit the August 2012 Archive <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/thread.html> and scroll down to "Conversation today with Brian Burt of MaestroConference". There are so many great ideas from so many talented facilitators on that thread. I found one of Lisa Heft's responses <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527642.html> and one of Michael Herman's responses <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527641.html> to be especially helpful. That conversation lists all the elements that are necessary to be present to classify an online event as OS. The part that's missing from that conversation is what the user experience would feel like. Four years have passed since that 2012 thread and many on this list have had plenty of experiences with online tools that lend themselves to being used for Online OS (Tuesday OS hotline, Open Space Online, Zoom, Sococo, MaestroConference, QiqoChat, etc). Each of these tools has strengths and weaknesses. Rather than taking a tool-centered approach (how close could we get to OS using what's already available), I'd like to take a moment to invite anyone to share what a great user experience would feel like, gather these ideas on OSList, and then any of these tool makers could build that into their platforms. Knowing what we now know of online user attention spans, it's got to be simple. Example: 1. Participant arrives on a page and sees _____________. 2. Next the participant _______________. Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat.com Charlottesville, VA Mobile: 917-528-1831 On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: Lucas ? your comments as always are provocative. But maybe a bit too literal? My thought is ? replicating OS (as experienced by human beings in a physical room) is a worthwhile undertaking. The deeper task, I would think, is to open some new space that is available only online. Just as the ?normal? (space/time) OST tends to blow people away ? what is the cyber-equivalent? I don?t have a clue of an answer. But I do remember ?way back when? ? sitting at my kitchen table with a TI Silent 700 plugged into a phone through acoustical couplings. Suddenly ?it? came alive and electronic beings from all over the planet for the most part (actually I am not really sure where they came from) populated my table, life, reality?. Space hadn?t opened. Space/time was transformed. What can you do for me baby? I guess that is the question. Harrison Winter Address 7808 River Falls Dr. Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucauire Ave Camden, ME 04843 207 763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com<http://www.openspaceworld.com> www.ho-image.com<http://www.ho-image.com> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucas Cioffi via OSList Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:36 AM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat? Hi All, I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest online Open Space experience using video chat. I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours. My... thoughts... are... down... below... Here are my rough thoughts: 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following: * where the opening circle is * how many virtual breakout spaces there are * who is in each virtual space right now * what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / marketplace / idea wall) 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat. Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary: 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to all participants. 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak. 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away for a moment"). Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have in mind! Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat Charlottesville, VA Mobile: 917-528-1831 _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160829/a7cb25bb/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:08:24 -0300 From: PAT MOLL? via OSList <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17 Message-ID: <CAEab7-CxJPaHNM0qm=wbtheqnggdfzdjshg_jnc7ca6tdz9...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Harrison! You put your common sense. Who dare to be filled with courage and go out to make a better world? I also wonder What is more important for the community that we are, a master and a final diploma or lead to action with simplicity and grandeur of being almost not visible? Harrison, I met you at Wosonos Chile in 2011, I learned that "less is more ...". And if matters a lot, the internal work of the facilitator. .... I invite friends and post results Actuate, doubts, tears and laughter. Life! Blessings to all El ago. 25, 2016 5:09 PM, "via OSList" <[email protected]> escribi?: > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspace > tech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. University training for Open Space Technology? > ([email protected] via OSList) > 2. Re: University training for Open Space Technology? > (Harrison Owen via OSList) > 3. Re: University training for Open Space Technology? > (Paul Levy via OSList) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 17:27:01 +0000 > From: "[email protected] via OSList" <[email protected]> > To: OSLIST <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology? > Message-ID: > <[email protected] > ail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > There is an opportunity, an opening, an invitation to make something > wonderful. > > What would a Master level University accredited training for Open Space > Technology look like? > > I posted a session in the last NOSONOS in Sweden at Tv? Skyttlar with the > title "10 ECTS" representing some 300 hours worth of training and studies > on the topic. > > An idea was born in the session, and many signed up for it, that we should > make a mentor program for the facilitation students in a course where they > would do find their own sponsors and a theme, organize with the sponsors to > invite to the event and document the proceedings, the student would > facilitate the event and later review with the sponsors post-event. > Naturally some compensation would be paid by the university to mentor for > coaching the student with his first sponsored facilitation event in the > program. > > The second idea was to invite other universities in the European Higher > Education Area and possibly other places to co-create a full program of one > years worth Masters diploma including the global mentor program and the > many professional trainings that are happening all over. many universities > where named, and it is exiting. > > This is an invitation to contact me or to reply with ideas or next steps or > connection and suggestions. > > Best greetings > > K?ri Gunnarsson > Hringbraut 46, IS-101 Reykjav?k, Iceland > Phone (+354) 864 5189 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacete > ch.org/attachments/20160825/b9eddae4/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:04:20 -0400 > From: Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, "'World wide Open Space Technology email > list'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology? > Message-ID: <000001d1ff0b$df075d60$9d161820$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > K?ri? I really shouldn?t do this? I am sure the Devil made me do this? But > I just can?t help myself?. > > > > I can?t tell you how many times people have said to me something like ? > Well if OS is really as simple as you say, how can you possibly have a > (1,2,3) day training program?? There is an answer, but not a simple one. > Now?. You are pushing this to a whole new level? a whole degree program? > You have to be kidding! > > > > I think it really could be worthwhile IF the program was NOT about > facilitating Open Space ? which can be done in a few minutes or less. > Actually, I find that most of the time required goes to unlearning just > about everything you ever learned about ?facilitating.? > > > > The heart of the program could be (should be / my opinion) about learning > to live (helping others learn) in a self organizing world. Lots of > thinking. Lots new experiences ? and definitely worth a year or so. A life > time will do, barely. That could be fun and really beneficial! > > > > Harrison > > > > Winter Address > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > 301-365-2093 > > > > Summer Address > > 189 Beaucauire Ave > > Camden, ME 04843 > > 207 763-3261 > > > > Websites > > www.openspaceworld.com<http://www.openspaceworld.com> > > www.ho-image.com<http://www.ho-image.com> > > > > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] via OSList > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:27 PM > To: OSLIST > Subject: [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology? > > > > There is an opportunity, an opening, an invitation to make something > wonderful. > > What would a Master level University accredited training for Open Space > Technology look like? > > > > I posted a session in the last NOSONOS in Sweden at Tv? Skyttlar with the > title "10 ECTS" representing some 300 hours worth of training and studies > on the topic. > > An idea was born in the session, and many signed up for it, that we should > make a mentor program for the facilitation students in a course where they > would do find their own sponsors and a theme, organize with the sponsors to > invite to the event and document the proceedings, the student would > facilitate the event and later review with the sponsors post-event. > Naturally some compensation would be paid by the university to mentor for > coaching the student with his first sponsored facilitation event in the > program. > > The second idea was to invite other universities in the European Higher > Education Area and possibly other places to co-create a full program of one > years worth Masters diploma including the global mentor program and the > many professional trainings that are happening all over. many universities > where named, and it is exiting. > > > > This is an invitation to contact me or to reply with ideas or next steps > or connection and suggestions. > > > > Best greetings > > > > K?ri Gunnarsson > > Hringbraut 46, IS-101 Reykjav?k, Iceland > Phone (+354) 864 5189 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacete > ch.org/attachments/20160825/bd6c1dfc/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:05:30 +0100 > From: Paul Levy via OSList <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Greetings from Paul Levy > > I wonder if "Facilitating Self-Organisation" might be better received ? > > Regards > > Paul > > > On 25 Aug 2016, at 18:27, [email protected] via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > There is an opportunity, an opening, an invitation to make something > wonderful. > > > > What would a Master level University accredited training for Open Space > Technology look like? > > > > I posted a session in the last NOSONOS in Sweden at Tv? Skyttlar with > the title "10 ECTS" representing some 300 hours worth of training and > studies on the topic. > > > > An idea was born in the session, and many signed up for it, that we > should make a mentor program for the facilitation students in a course > where they would do find their own sponsors and a theme, organize with the > sponsors to invite to the event and document the proceedings, the student > would facilitate the event and later review with the sponsors post-event. > Naturally some compensation would be paid by the university to mentor for > coaching the student with his first sponsored facilitation event in the > program. > > > > The second idea was to invite other universities in the European Higher > Education Area and possibly other places to co-create a full program of one > years worth Masters diploma including the global mentor program and the > many professional trainings that are happening all over. many universities > where named, and it is exiting. > > > > This is an invitation to contact me or to reply with ideas or next steps > or connection and suggestions. > > > > Best greetings > > > > K?ri Gunnarsson > > Hringbraut 46, IS-101 Reykjav?k, Iceland > > Phone (+354) 864 5189 > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17 > ************************************** > Enviado con MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=es&[email protected]&idSignature=23> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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