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From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kai 
Degner via OSList
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 3:25 PM
To: Harold Shinsato; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 OS's for 'Civic Listening' (and HO in his hat)

 

Hello Harold-

 

You have quite a memory!

 

I appreciate you honing in on a claim that certainly has exceptions: government 
not being a credible or competent convener.

 

In terms of credibility, I find the public-facing side of government is 
designed to be deliberative, i.e. focused on decision-making ("Let's decide 
where we are going to eat tonight.")  This is opposed to a dialogic or 
brainstorming function ("Let's discuss what our favorites restaurants are and 
why, and what other restaurants there could be.")  Most brainstorming happens 
within staff, in non-public settings.  Thus, government convening Open Space, 
or any other effort to simply 1) invite creativity from a diverse audience or 
2) promise The People an experience of authentic listening, is seen as suspect. 
 Whether it's true or not, government process is often perceived to be one to 
move along a somewhat pre-determined path.  Lastly, government is often a 
stakeholder with an extreme power differential, which can make it less credible 
as a convener.

 

Competency has a harsher connotation than I mean, but it's the right word.  
Overloaded job descriptions and meager budgets create a bunker mentality, and 
open process is frequently seen as threat because change is perceived to have 
costs.  Heck, even dreaming could lead to more costs, so that ought to be 
avoided.  Rarely are there in-house facilitation skill sets in staff.  
Long-time staff members can be jaded by dealing with a largely un- and/or 
misinformed public, and the 45-second sensational TV "news" that attempts to 
highlight suspected incompetence or wasteful spending is not helpful either. 
(Local media isn't as interested all the moments government successfully 
provides the services we take for granted).  Government staff is, quite 
frankly, just not of the mindset or skill set to say, "Come together and have 
at it."  But the reason is understandable: they are doing yeoman's work keeping 
water running, people safe, cars moving, sewage treated, kids educated, etc. - 
and being suspected and under appreciated along the way.   

 

Of course, there are many moments government has blind spots, debilitating 
inertia, and no vision.  That's where We The People have a role: to inform, to 
push, to dream.  

 

I found great difficulty getting politically diverse attendance to Open Space 
events while a candidate - people avoid partisan politics and/or don't want to 
tacitly support a candidate by attending and/or mistakenly fear their nonprofit 
job keeps them from participating.  However, once elected as mayor, I had 
convening ability - but I was convening the events as mayor, they were 
explicitly not city-sponsored events.  I can sell, but getting my colleagues on 
city council to say yes to OS is not one.  They hear: "Hey, how about we 
approve funds for an event where anyone can say anything about anything the 
city is doing and propose a bunch of expensive things that won't solve problems 
but that they will be mad at us for not doing."  This is easier: "Hey, I'm 
hosting an event, open to anyone.  There are 75 community organizations 
participating.  You're invited, it's free with food."  

 

Hosting as mayor, 350 people showed to a Harrisonburg Intercultural/Interfaith 
Summit, held in OS.  200 for a Sustainability Summit.  150 for Health and 
Wellness.  Outcomes and relationships aplenty.  Cost to city: zero.  Actions 
that required city involvement: few.  Actions the people who attended could 
implement on their own: most.

 

But, not all of us are mayors, and I'm not anymore.  Thus, We The People need 
to host the OS ourselves because we know how to do it, no one else will, and we 
believe such events can create the working community relationships we are so 
sorely missing.

 

Thus, The Listening Corps.

 

Thanks for listening!

 

Kai 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Kai,

Clicking on your link from your first post, I realized - yes - you were a bit 
of a legend here in the past for your work opening civic discourse as an 
elected official in the U.S.

I know that many of us are passionate about bringing more open space into civic 
dialog, and I'm extremely grateful for you showing a successful model of doing 
this.

I'm responding mostly out of enthusiasm for your posting this offering to the 
OSList, but I'd love to hear more from you.

Would you say more about "Government is not the most credible or competent 
convener", and how you sense "We The People" could do the job? I really thought 
that's what our Government in the U.S. was supposed to be. We The People, as 
stated in the U.S. Constitution. Surely you must have some special insights 
doing this convening work from inside Government?

    Thanks!
    Harold

 

On 1/8/17 10:40 PM, Kai Degner via OSList wrote:

Greetings- 

 

How about 1,000 community OS's?

 

I know too few of you, but am a fellow OS convener and am happy to be back on 
the OSlist.  I just finished 8 years on a local city council (Harrisonburg, VA, 
USA) and five months running for congress (VA6).  More importantly, I've 
convened over 25 community summits using OS in that time.  And I had lunch with 
Harrison on Tuesday (see photo, I'm on the left, Bruce on the right).

 

Briefly, I believe the dialogue, democracy, facilitation, leadership, business, 
and communications worlds frequently promote people taking turns talking as 
sufficiently useful for quality discourse.  We often underemphasize and take 
for granted individual and group listening skills, and there could be value in 
focusing on how to "let people feel listened to" rather than just "let people 
talk."

  

My time in elected office let me see the opportunity for OS to contribute to 
what I'm calling "civic listening infrastructure."  How can/does a community 
listen to itself?  Where are its open spaces?

 

Government is not the most credible or competent convener, neither is a 
candidate, nor is an elected official.  We The People could convene We The 
People, with a little help from the people who know OS. 

 

The way the Peace Corps or Army Corps builds infrastructure, I am starting The 
Listening Corps <http://www.listeningcorps.com>  in hopes of inspiring and/or 
supporting people committed to honing individual listening skills and then 
facilitating group listening.  OS is a power tool on the group listening tool 
belt.

 

I'm hosting a webinar at three times this week to teach some simple listening 
skills and invite participation in The Listening Corps.  You are cordially 
invited. Link <https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/rt/6047065842932730372> 

 

For discussion purposes, I'm curious how the connection between OS and civic 
listening lands with this group.  Does sparking community OS's on 
locally-chosen topics seem like a useful way to address the political, class, 
and cultural divides ?  What could be possible if we joined to create 1,000 
such events in our communities?

 

Thanks for listening -

 

Kai

 

 


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