How I have enjoyed this thread! I especially salute Nick and Bhav reminding myself again and again that "I could not know what I did not know and when I knew I could not help but wonder if I would ever have understood if someone had described it to me."
It's how I felt about Open Space. Never could I have conceived it until I experienced it. Only then would I ever have seen that it was in me and others all along. I can relate and resonate with sponsors, clients and others who worry about letting go too much. I can relate to us as facilitators navigating those conversations. Yet we all know that we can't dive in the water by just tipping our toes in. We have to jump right in. Quite scary when much of what is done is wading in the water. It's why I admire Nick's openness knowing that he is already opening and holding this space for those who do not yet know what they don't know. As others have mentioned, when the early conversations focus primarily on the urgent issues at hand, imagining new solutions and renewed energy to address those issues, it becomes easier to firmly and confidently convey and be heard on what's possible with an Open Space done well. Because we have skillfully engaged them in the what's possible, the how of what could happen next has a greater chance of getting off the ground. No easy solutions on that. A lifetime of learning and I'm still learning. It's why I appreciate this list so much. Suzanne On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:41 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Check this out Nick: https://fowpdx.com/open-space/ > > On 6 April 2018 at 15:30, Nick Martin via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Hi everybody! >> >> Thank you all so much for your excellent feedback. I've been watching >> with enormous interest. >> >> I've just had a great Skype with Bhav where he was kind enough to take me >> through in more detail where my rendition of Open Space is veering from the >> traditional. It was incredibly enlightening (thanks again Bhav). >> >> For me, it's critical I get this right for readers of my website who are >> far less experienced than your good selves so I'm committed to changing it. >> >> Bhav suggested that I might create an editable Google Doc of a new draft >> and share it with you for comments and edits. I thought that a wonderful >> idea! Here it is and I promise to publish whatever we end up with ... >> assuming it's clean :) >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing >> >> Naturally the Law of Two Feet very much applies so please don't feel >> obligated. All input and feedback is very much appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Nick Martin* >> WorkshopBank >> <http://workshopbank.com/?utm_source=wisestamp&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=emailsig> >> m: +45 42 47 00 74 <+45%2042%2047%2000%2074> | e: n...@workshopbank.com >> | w: workshopbank.com >> <http://workshopbank.com/?utm_source=wisestamp&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=emailsig> >> [image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/workshopbank> [image: >> Twitter] <https://twitter.com/workshopbank> [image: LinkedIn] >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmartn> >> >> >> On 04/04/2018 16:37, Dan Mezick via OSList wrote: >> >> “CFCF” (control for control freaks) might be a more appropriate name. >> Either that or “Project Management”. >> >> with a twist, of course. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> I see the site has a contact page: https://workshopbank.com/contact >> >> Anyone care to give them some feedback and request they stop calling this >> thing Open Space with a twist? >> >> Peggy Holman >> 425-746-6274 >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> *Date:* April 4, 2018 at 6:40:52 AM PDT >> *To:* "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> *Cc:* Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> >> *Subject:* *Re: [OSList] Hope Never Dies!* >> *Reply-To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> >> This is not the first time for this conversation… The simple truth: Old >> habits die very hard. The habit of thinking/hoping/wishing/knowing that >> somebody is in charge doesn’t play very well in Open Space. And so the >> predictable arrives as prognosticated. Or something. >> >> >> >> Some find this ongoing situation an occasion to defend the process. I can >> understand the feeling, but I am quite sure it is not worth the energy. >> Open Space/self organization will do quite well all by itself, as it has >> for millennia. But there is a sadness, which on occasion expresses itself >> (at least in me) as anger. I find the ignorance and arrogance of those >> “meeting planners” to be totally appalling. The massive disrespect of the >> participants manifest in the presumption that they (the “planning >> Committee”) alone possess the keys to knowledge and action… that they alone >> could ask the pertinent questions for which they will supply the only >> answers, personally or through imported “experts.” -- is soul numbing. >> Sad. >> >> >> >> Harrison >> >> >> >> Winter Address >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> 301-365-2093 >> >> >> >> Summer Address >> >> 189 Beaucauire Ave >> >> Camden, ME 04843 >> >> 207 763-3261 >> >> >> >> Websites >> >> www.openspaceworld.com >> >> www.ho-image.com >> >> >> >> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf Of *Eva P Svensson >> via OSList >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:46 AM >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Cc:* Eva P Svensson >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Hope Never Dies! >> >> >> >> Don’t call it Open Space if it’s not Open space!! >> >> >> >> Another thing.. I visited my first ”Bar camp” a week ago. Oh my how >> frustrated I was with the control! Imagine that we had to stand up and >> tell our name and two topic that we would like to talk about (without any >> obligation to bring them up). After that the ones who wanted to raise a >> topic - stod up and read what s/he wanted to talk about in the 45 min >> breakout sessions. Then we were asked to raise our hands if we thought that >> topic was a good idea - and not if it’ wasn’t… Just imagine standing up >> front of all participants with a topic and no one raised their hand…! >> >> Nothing was said about how to collect the recordings so there was a big >> confusion about that. Every breakout session was 45 min and when the time >> was out - the ”facilitator” came in the different rooms and announced that >> the time was over… >> >> And of course no circles , just tables. Can you imagine me as being an >> Open Space ”fundamentalist” being oh so much frustrated… >> >> Oh my - what an interesting experience … >> >> Hugs >> >> :o) >> >> Eva >> >> >> Bästa hälsningar >> >> >> >> Eva P Svensson >> >> >> >> *EPS Human Invest AB* >> >> *Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc* >> >> >> >> *"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående >> företag och organisationer"* >> >> >> >> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >> >> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg >> >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >> >> www.epshumaninvest.se >> >> Skype: eva.p.svensson >> >> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >> >> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >> >> >> >> *"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor >> till dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 apr. 2018 kl. 13:20 skrev Bhavesh Patel via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>: >> >> >> >> Classic - "*There’s a twist in this version with the inclusion of a >> process that gives the organizers a little more control over the agenda.* >> " >> >> https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click >> below:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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