There is something in this that might be of interest
“Too much hierarchical control, and participants become passive and dependent or hostile and resistant. They wane in self-direction which is the core of all learning. Too much co-operative guidance may degenerate into a kind of nurturing oppression, and may deny the group the benefits of totally autonomous learning. Too much autonomy for participants and laissez-faire on your part, and they may wallow in ignorance, misconception and chaos” Heron, J (1999) The Complete Facilitators Handbook (p11)London mary price-o'connor the moving theatre lab BA ( Hons) Dartington Dalcroze Certificate Institute Jaques Dalcroze Geneva. https://www.facebook.com/Themovingtheatrelab 07773072479 > On 23 Aug 2018, at 12:08, Marai Kiele via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Sarah, > > I followed your links and browsed through the reports. > What it brings up in me is: > > a) Some of these questions seem to belong to a preparation meeting, where a > subsystem of those who are going to gather looks at: > the intention / the invitation / who should participate and how that can be > made possible / is OST the right format for what is intended to achieve? > > b) I also wonder about the impact of the length of an OST event. Longer > events (with a night to sleep on things in between) can allow a community to > go through more of a transformational process. > > c) Last not least: Doing OST doesn’t mean it’s all roses and butterflies, but > that whatever is there within a system becomes visible. That may not always > look pretty. > > d) Daniel Mezick shared links on „psychological safety“ two days ago. A topic > very dear to my heart. > > There is a huge difference between a group and a team. In my understanding, > your OST experience brings together a „group" of people. > „Teaming“ = the capacity to build a team that achieves something together, > and that might evolve into a high-performance team with all the ingredients > as described in the Google study, needs much more than just gathering once > within an OST. > After I had fallen in love with OST in 2003 I came to the realisation that I > am desiring more connection, collaboration and deeper conversations than I > experienced in several OST events I participated in. My experience is that > people don’t turn into great listeners, appreciative speakers and mature > human beings just by participating in a 1 day OST event. There are skills to > be learned and capacities to developed that may take years or a whole > life-time... > There are great things that OST makes possible, but it’s not the cure to > everything. > > e) Last not least, allow me to gently express something that just crossed my > mind while writing. I may be completely off road with it. It’s just a hunch… > I just wondered about the team who organises these events and the level of > safety within in? I am a great believer in the world matching / mirroring us > what’s going on inside of ourselves. > > I believe asking for more rules and regulations is an expression of a true > need, but without having reached the core issue, yet. That’s why I love > facilitating team explorations where we go beyond quick fixes, coming from > the mind, and go deeper. Until we have found the hidden treasures... > > My 2 cents, > Marai > > https://about.me/maraikiele > > >> Am 23.08.2018 um 12:04 schrieb Sarah Grange via OSList >> <[email protected]>: >> >> The question of “Safe spaces” has come up recently in our regular OST >> programme, following some incidents where participants felt there was racism >> and transphobia at our big annual event. There was a request for more rules >> or guidelines, which we’ve resisted, but it’s a thorny old issue because not >> everyone feels strong enough to call out bad behaviour when it happens, and >> the natural reaction is to look to us as organisers to discipline or >> regulate behaviour. There’s also a tendency for people to report bad >> behaviour after the event, so we’re unable to support or facilitate a >> conversation in the moment. I don’t know what to do about this beyond keep >> on having the conversation with participants. We eventually held an OS >> specifically on the question of supporting people within Os and there was >> considerable disagreement, with some participants calling for rules or >> stronger guidelines on how to hold conversations and others (including me) >> feeling that would disempower people rather than support them, and was >> totally un-OST. The issue remains unresolved, so I’d love to know if anyone >> has tried anything along the guidelines/participant-led codes of conduct etc >> and whether there was any success with that.. >> >> >> >> >>> On 21 Aug 2018, at 21:31, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: (Rolf F. Katzenberger) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:27:04 +0200 >>> From: "Rolf F. Katzenberger" <[email protected]> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <[email protected]>, David Osborne via OSList >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> David, >>> >>> Having read your later explanation of "safe", I feel it's also useful to >>> look a bit closer at "self-organization". >>> >>> From a systemic perspective, it is impossible for a complex system (like an >>> org, or a group of people within) to *not* self-organize. It does not >>> matter whether conditions are great, indifferent or lousy, groups of people >>> will self-organize and adapt, as they always have. >>> >>> So, while we may be unhappy about the *results* of it, self-organization in >>> itself cannot be stopped by too much safety. It is a capability and power >>> we can always rely on, for better or worse. >>> >>> It seems we rather need to focus more on the desired results, i.e. on the >>> words immediately following the word "self-organizing...". Like e.g. "... >>> team". By stressing "self-organization" instead, and e.g. contrasting it to >>> "passiveness" or "complacency" or "too much safety", we might simply be >>> barking up the wrong tree. >>> >>> So, coming back to your question, I'd reply with another question: If >>> you're not happy about the current results of self-organization - what >>> different results would you like to see, instead, and how could you modify >>> the conditions so that it becomes more likely for self-organization to work >>> towards the desired results. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents, >>> Rolf >>> >>> Am 21. August 2018 06:49:20 MESZ schrieb David Osborne via OSList >>> <[email protected]>: >>>> Greetings all, >>>> >>>> I have questions about safety related to self-organization I would love >>>> others thoughts on. >>>> >>>> Is it possible for an environment can be too safe to support >>>> self-organization? Can safety be at such a high level that it inhibits >>>> or >>>> slows down the self-organizing process? >>>> >>>> I'm very interested to hear others perspectives. >>>> >>>> Best to all, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> *David R. 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