Whoa Peggy. We have almost known each other for a long time. I was at that same 1993 event with Senge et al. đ
That Dialogue Circle was a very cool introduction to complex system dynamics. Diana Diana Larsen Agile Fluency Project - Sent from my phone. > On Jul 15, 2019, at 15:23, Peggy Holman via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Marai, > > I donât think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my > offering to what we did in that closing circle. > > Bohm Dialogue is a form of circle process. It was the first practice I ever > experienced in which a large group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply > explored a complex subject. The year was 1993 and practicing this form of > interaction is in part what set me up to appreciate the power of Open Space > when I met Harrison in 1994. (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with > 20-40 people. But that first time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon > with Peter Senge and they had 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. > Iâd never seen anything like that before. In fact, it was an experiment for > the conference organizers.) > > In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing > consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a > book called Changing Consciousness. He also wrote a seminal essay called On > Dialogue. These were early influences for me. > > What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and > experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended > reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking > visible to the whole. > > Chrisâ questions brought the whole system present. We became a âweâ as the > considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole. > > Peggy > > P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm > Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much > patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or > better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like > Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement > practices. > > <Dialogue Practices.pdf> > > > >> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thatâs exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy! >> I smile, reading your description. >> >> I donât remember âBohm dialogueâ (Are talking objects used in that?) >> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate >> that in my story. >> >> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the >> talking object and spoke up. >> As I remember it, besides the âIâ language, he invited all who where >> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective. >> >> Not just think of âwhat do I wantâ or âwhat do we, in this room, wantâ but >> include all those around the globe who are not physically there. >> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who >> belong to the community, in some way or another? >> What would be best for those who werenât capable of bringing their >> perspective in themselves? >> >> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere >> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole >> group: >> Moscow / Russia. >> >> But I wonât give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-) >> >> Marai >> >> >>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList >>> <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Yes, it was the year of Harrisonâs 70th birthday. I remember the dancing! >>> >>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two >>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we >>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with >>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, >>> added the essential guidance to speak âIâ language â from personal >>> experience. >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I remember 2005âŚit was celebrating Harrisonâs 65th birthday I think too >>>> (or was it 70th? I just know it was significant). I wrote a song for him >>>> based on a Nova Scotia folks songâŚIâll look through my old note books and >>>> see if I still have the lyrics. I was so nervous to sing it! I thin I >>>> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet! >>>> >>>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was >>>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before. >>>> >>>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from >>>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with >>>> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merryâs Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth. >>>> >>>> Halifax is such a great city. And it was a really fun time, probably my >>>> favourite of the three full OSonOSâs I attended (including the OSonOS IX >>>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001). There was >>>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and >>>> drinking every night! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the >>>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on >>>>> TV at the hotel.) Funny how memory works. >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> San Francisco >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet >>>>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv >>>>>> instead of a website based conversation? >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. >>>>>> >>>>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization >>>>>> Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th >>>>>> US OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 >>>>>> - and that's the limit of my memory :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> San Francisco >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the >>>>>>> years. Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in >>>>>>> terms of year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. >>>>>>> Suggestion is that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere >>>>>>> "back there" I am sure you will find the collective ruminations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harrison >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: ost list international <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: Marai Kiele <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am >>>>>>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova >>>>>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short >>>>>>> stories book. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense >>>>>>> making (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or >>>>>>> rather: how it became obvious to the group). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are >>>>>>> numbers like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - How many participants were we? >>>>>>> - From approximately how many countries? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before. >>>>>>> Yet I still couldnât find the ârightâ answer: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Since when does WOSonOS exist? >>>>>>> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place >>>>>>> up to this year? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot in advance! >>>>>>> Marai >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://about.me/maraikiele >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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