On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:07 PM, OA <[email protected]> wrote: > Kevin, have you found a working solution? > > Today I was riding my bike and saw a lot of similar problems, mostly with > 'T' streets with STOP sign, connecting to a main street. At many, many > occasions riding on main street, I heard misleading notifications, like > "STOP sign is coming"... >
I don't know whether it's a working solution, but with the aid of Overpass queries, I was able to determine that there are many thousands of two-way stops tagged with "highway=stop direction=*" on nodes on the approaching ways. I don't know whether or not OSMAND actually honors "direction=*", since I can't test without going far afield until the changes that I recently made myself have propagated into it. (There were no nodes like that that I could reach in less than about a 45-minute drive each way. I can wait.) Since the "highway=stop direction=*" is so very common, I'm going to presume that if OSMAND doesn't yet recognize it, it at some point will. If some other tagging is needed, then I'll have to revise what I've entered - and it'll be easy to use Overpass to find them and fix them. You could check if there are any "highway=stop direction=*" nodes near you by looking on Overpass Turbo <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oS4>, and try them on your bicycle. If you run the query on the region that the link takes you to, you'll see the ones that I put in my neighbourhood after getting the advice to do that. For whatever it's worth, https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4408885039 is what I wound up with for the offending STOP sign that I used as my initial example. Time will tell whether it works. It's at least AN answer, and not one that depends on a moribund proposal on the Wiki. (I'll confess that I got so confused with the architectural astrounautics that I saw here and on 'tagging' that I lost sight of the obvious 'direction=*' that I hadn't tried.) I could not believe how such a common case requires so special attention > for its setup... > Me either. But when you ask the OSM wizards, you run the risk that they'll veer off into a discussion of the uncommon cases (such as "right turning traffic need only give way, all others must stop" or "left lane must give way to merging traffic, right lane may proceed at speed") without remembering to answer the question about the simple case first. It's another case of "do not meddle in the affairs of wizards." It took me quite a while to get that calibrated - and particularly in this discussion I've had to remind people repeatedly that what I was requesting was "best current practice." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
