How would you do this with curl or wget? I don't seem to be able to find 
the magic.

    curl 7.64.1 (x86_64-pc-win32) libcurl/7.64.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1b (Schannel) 
zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.7 WinIDN libssh2/1.8.2 nghttp2/1.37.0

fails (no transfer, no failure message) when invoked

    curl --insecure

and

    GNU Wget 1.20.3 built on mingw32
    -cares +digest +gpgme +https +ipv6 +iri +large-file +metalink
    -nls +ntlm +opie +psl +ssl/openssl

fails with the message

    Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.

when invoked

    wget --no-check-certificate

Pete

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