Thanks for your understanding. Now you see the problem. It's not just a difficult problem for OsmAnd to overcome, it's a matter of using the Chinese GPS satellite system. That cannot be overcome and why would they try, the Chinese already have a system that works for them. Hardly any non-Chinese people much less cyclists go there to ride/navigate.
The only two solutions I have found if you can call them that are Baidu and it's off-shoot Xingzhe. Xingzhe was built by cyclists for cyclists and so I struggle to break into it (legally) and create my own maps so that I can ride where ever I want in that country with accuracy. It's still very inflexible but as the demand grows so should the usefulness. On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:05 PM Bart Eisenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow. When the service that produced the GPX can't follow the GPX, that's > a problem. > > I haven't imported this route to OsmAnd, but just looking at it, I can see > where OsmAnd's routing algorithm would take you on a different route: > OsmAnd is looking for a direct route; the GPX is suggesting a more > bicycle-friendly one. Ideally, OsmAnd would "snap" the GPX to the > underlying map. But it doesn't. The developers say that would be a > difficult feature to implement. > > On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:50:59 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote: >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. Trust me I've tried everything, I use Ride >> with GPS for all my rides including 26 days in Taiwan last year. It's not >> that I cannot map roads/rides for China on RwGPS it's that they don't >> follow the roads. They are all offset sideways and backwards or forward by >> about 200 yards. It's fine, I guess I could keep my eyes glued to the >> screen and try to estimate where I am but I'm still looking for a better >> way. >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 3:42 PM Bart Eisenberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> What about using the "Ride with GPS " app? >>> >>> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 9:58:55 AM UTC-8, Kevin wrote: >>>> >>>> This link is from Ride with GPS. Not sure that it will work because I >>>> did not create or ride this route yet I'm trying to share it with you. If I >>>> try to copy and paste the link from a saved link it won't work, it only >>>> allows for sharing directly from the app. >>>> >>>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29159791?privacy_code=kSV8erZTWlZbezcx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 5:35 AM Grzegorz Adamiak <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Out of curiosity, can you share the gpx file and possibly the source >>>>> route i.e. the one you created online as I understand (if the online >>>>> service has such an option)? >>>>> >>>>> pt., 6 gru 2019 o 17:03 Kevin Bogle <[email protected]> napisał(a): >>>>> >>>>>> You are correct. It does sound complicated and I'm not sure it is a >>>>>> work around for creating and following a route in >>>>>> China. Everything I've tried so far has not worked and points to the >>>>>> difference in GPS systems. Most of the world follows >>>>>> the US system whereas China has their own an the two don't match. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your great effort to help. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:50 AM Grzegorz Adamiak <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The difference in route calculated by Osmand vs. an other source >>>>>>> lies in routing engine being used and its settings (in case of a >>>>>>> recorded >>>>>>> track it's obvious, it's the exact path someone took). When following a >>>>>>> gpx >>>>>>> track the navigation is not full featured (as shown on Bart's video). To >>>>>>> get a full featured one, Osmand needs to calculate the route. Now, to >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> the result best matching external source, you need as many waypoints as >>>>>>> possible, so Osmand has no (or almost) choice for routing. Some sources >>>>>>> provide such options e.g. Kurviger can export additional waypoints and a >>>>>>> tack at the same time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If that's not available, you might want to add waypoints to imported >>>>>>> track manually in Osmand to fix the biggest deviations, let it make the >>>>>>> route and start navigation, while displaying the imported track. Of >>>>>>> course, >>>>>>> you'd need to adjust the settings in Osmand to match those from external >>>>>>> source, esp. for things like paved/upaved roads or the base profile. >>>>>>> That >>>>>>> way you can follow the imported track "manually" and let Osmand >>>>>>> recalculate >>>>>>> on each deviation you make from calculated track to follow the imported >>>>>>> one. Sounds complicated but is quite easy given you placed waypoints in >>>>>>> correct places, and works quite well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope that helps :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> śr., 4 gru 2019 o 19:07 Kevin Bogle <[email protected]> napisał(a): >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I would like to create the route in OsmAnd but I nearly burned >>>>>>>> my eyes out yesterday looking at my smartphone. To bad it's not >>>>>>>> possible to >>>>>>>> create the routes on a desktop. I'll look at your solution. thanks for >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I might take a stab at trying to create the route on Baidu. I tried >>>>>>>> 行者, another cycling app, smartphone only, but gave up in despair. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes, if it goes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> K >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:53 AM Bart Eisenberg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From what I've seen, the problem is as you describe. If you try >>>>>>>>> to navigate a GPX from another source, OsmAnd will follow the GPX >>>>>>>>> itself >>>>>>>>> with no regards to the underlying map. If you enable "Calculate route >>>>>>>>> between points, it will follow the map, but not necessarily duplicate >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> GPX route. I have yet to see a perfect solution to this. You could >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> show the GPX and follow it best you can. Or you can use my >>>>>>>>> (imperfect) >>>>>>>>> method: https://youtu.be/mMcw4kYmfPk >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It seems that the only sure way to do true turn-by-turn navigation >>>>>>>>> on OsmAnd is to create the route in OsmAnd. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> n Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 8:26:53 AM UTC-8, Kevin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks for the suggestion Bart. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this seems to be an old problem because of different gps systems. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I did upload the map of china and enabling a route between points >>>>>>>>>> works but it doesn't give me what i want. it calculates it's own >>>>>>>>>> route. >>>>>>>>>> i built a tour of the Yangtze river from Shanghai to the point >>>>>>>>>> where it breaks up into to two feeder routes near Cuiping/Yibin. >>>>>>>>>> would like >>>>>>>>>> to do it next year but without a proper build not so sure. wanted to >>>>>>>>>> follow >>>>>>>>>> the river as closely as possible >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> kevin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:11 PM Bart Eisenberg < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What happens if you go to the Options button in the directions >>>>>>>>>>> menu and enable Calculate route between points? (I'm assuming here >>>>>>>>>>> you've >>>>>>>>>>> uploaded not a map, but a GPX route). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 4:08:41 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Today I created a map for China in Ride with GPS and uploaded >>>>>>>>>>>> it to OsmAnd. Same problem with other navigation apps. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The route is off course from the beginning. 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