Exactly!

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:54 AM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like you are actually creating your own private node network for
> cycling!
>
> Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op vr 16 apr. 2021 om 15:49 schreef rjgambrel <[email protected]>:
>
>> I have been experimenting with one way to deal with the problem. The
>> overall approach I am trying is to:
>>
>> 1) Design a route I would like to follow. I am using brouter.de (the web
>> interface)
>> 2) Export it to a Google Drive folder I call GPS Routes (not an important
>> detail, but just the way I do it)
>> 3) On phone I import the specific route (more about this in a bit)
>> 4) I make sure that route is visible and give it a distinct color and
>> width (why will be apparent in a minute)
>> 5) On OSMAND I create a few POIs. They are usually somewhere on the route
>> I just created. For example if I have a big loop for a route, I might
>> create one at a far point on the route, then also one at my finish point
>> (same as start for a loop). Below I call them point A and B.
>> 6) I favorite the POIs A & B
>> 7) I have done all of this without actually beginning my trip
>> 8) At beginning of trip I start navigation to point A. I do not try to
>> improve the route that OSMAND choses.
>> 9) At this point on OSMAND screen you can see the OSMAND route with turn
>> by turn instructions AND you can see the route I picked
>> 10) Occasionally I look at the OSMAND screen and if I have deviated from
>> my route, I get back on it.
>> 11) If it hasn't done so yet, OSMAND will eventually chose a route that
>> is similar or same as one I picked (to point A)
>> 12) when I get to point A, I then ask OSMAND to navigate to point B
>>
>> Regarding #3. I actually do this for many routes. I call them segments. I
>> am a cyclist and have many favorite routes to take. I am building up a
>> number of medium size segments that can be thought of as a web of routes.
>> My intent is display the entire web on my phone (or sometimes just a subset
>> of it) I haven't yet, but might choose to color them differently.
>>
>> Regarding POIs. I actually create many of them that serve as nodes in my
>> web.
>>
>> This is not automatic but does solve the problem that I had in which I
>> want OSMAND turn by turn, but I do not want to have to plan my route on
>> OSMAND. It is good enough for me if I can have OSMAND plan to go to some
>> point I choose and display for me the route I would like to take. In my
>> case I don't mind getting off course a bit as long as I can see where I
>> would like to be and have OSMAND try to get me to my destination.
>>
>> I have not included specific instructions above, just "psuedo
>> instructions". I can provide details if there is an interest. I can also
>> give some renders of the POIs and route segments.
>>
>> I am a cyclist doing rides from 10 mi to 50 mi who wants various routes
>> to choose depending on my mood.
>>
>> On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 4:54:09 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I got that in the past - but no, they were not waypoints but
>>> POI's. I'll have a go at it on my next hike.
>>>
>>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>>
>>>
>>> Op vr 16 apr. 2021 om 11:45 schreef Andrea Guareschi <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> I'm sorry but I'm in the same condition : )
>>>> I asked in other threads but I take advantage of your kindness....do
>>>> you the proximity message with name about waypoints when you follow a
>>>> track? I'm not able to turn them on.
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno ven 16 apr 2021 alle ore 11:11 Peter Elderson <
>>>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds great to me! Too bad I can't help with programming, but I
>>>>> can test, and give feedback  about usability, if that helps.
>>>>> Peter Elderson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Op vr 16 apr. 2021 om 10:03 schreef Andrea Guareschi <
>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Peter, I think saving calculated routes (directions on osmand) it
>>>>>> would be complicated because it would mean to skip the intelligence of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> engine the second time you use that routes, and routes are made to be
>>>>>> calculated depending on the map/streets conditions in that very moment, 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> they need to be updated everytime to get a valid answer. And I don't know
>>>>>> any software who save routes/directions, including google maps.
>>>>>> BUT, it would pefect if we could save the "parameters" we set to
>>>>>> calculate a route, not only the track to follow, but also intermediate
>>>>>> destinations and waypoints/favorites along the routes as intermediate
>>>>>> points plus all other options you can set in directions menu. Making a 
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> job the first time with many points and parameters it would give aprox 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same routes everytime or whatever the best solution considering them...
>>>>>> This would be the goal for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno venerdì 16 aprile 2021 alle 08:03:01 UTC+2
>>>>>> [email protected] ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saved (calculated) routes, as opposed to saved tracks, I like that.
>>>>>>> Offer to save when starting or pausing navigation.
>>>>>>> Separate tab in My Places.
>>>>>>> Offer as a target option in navigation ("Route to ...") .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't there already a route exchange format e.g. when using brouter
>>>>>>> to calculate routes instead of OsmAnds own routing engine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Elderson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op vr 16 apr. 2021 om 00:10 schreef Andrea Guareschi <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you mean using "plan a route" function you build your gpx track
>>>>>>>> and save in My places. And the day after you "follow track" in the
>>>>>>>> "directions" options. If you mean using "directions", setting start,
>>>>>>>> destination, intermediate destinations to see intermediate distance 
>>>>>>>> and so
>>>>>>>> on, I think you can not save this. It's one of the improvement to do
>>>>>>>> together with saving waypoints/favorites as internediate destinations 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> requests without having everytime you use the app to set them as 
>>>>>>>> markers
>>>>>>>> again. Osmand in "directions" could trasform the waypoints of track in
>>>>>>>> intermediate destinations, that would be fantastic and also a solution 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> saving directions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il giorno giovedì 15 aprile 2021 alle 20:20:19 UTC+2 ra ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no idea for that? - another "missing link" is to pause a route.
>>>>>>>>> there is only "verwerfen" and "fortfahren" - one means delete what i 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> created, the other continue - and that means whenever I make a break 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> lady in my pocket keeps talkin' ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ra schrieb am Dienstag, 13. April 2021 um 14:53:46 UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thank you bart! i have seen your great movie before. but: for
>>>>>>>>>> such a route I have to do everything from scratch, cannot use any 
>>>>>>>>>> stored
>>>>>>>>>> favorites or adresses - so it seems. is it possible to save an built 
>>>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>> with altered waypoints and use it later with GPS on?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bart Eisenberg schrieb am Dienstag, 13. April 2021 um 13:46:42
>>>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This video might help.  The basic idea is to plan the route with
>>>>>>>>>>> the trip planner feature and locate it for navigation in My places.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/bYQpp9UWqlI
>>>>>>>>>>>
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