> Xavier - 
Re " Yes, under "Configure Screen" there is a setting within "Default 
Buttons" to turn off the 3D button so it does not appear."
That works.  Brilliant - Thank you.
Re - "setting for "north up" - Somehow I'd already achieved that ages ago 
but can't remember the method.  C'est la vie.
PW


On Monday, 19 January 2026 at 16:37:07 UTC Xavier wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 06:23:18AM -0800, P Wat wrote:
> >IMHO 3D is an irritation and a waste of time.
>
> To each his own. In fact, sometimes, to each his own per profile... I 
> prefer "north up" and "2D" for the browse map view, but for driving 
> navigation I prefer "travel direction up" and "3D" view, both because 
> they:
>
> 1) let me see farther ahead on screen (I orient my phone in portrat 
> mode for driving) -- and 3D view gives a bit further ahead view
>
> 2) make the map position correspond exactly to what I see in front of 
> me. While driving, esp. in busy city areas, I don't want to have to 
> expend the few miliseconds to mentally rotate the map image to match my 
> orientation to the streets I am traversing.
>
> At the same time, I realize those are *my personal preferences* that 
> that others (such as yourself) may very well want different preferences 
> for how the map is displayed/animated.
>
> >I would prefer that it never appears. Yes I could press the 2D/3D 
> >button, but its presence may be the problem. It would be better if it 
> >was not there - Is this possible? 
>
> Yes, under "Configure Screen" there is a setting within "Default 
> Buttons" to turn off the 3D button so it does not appear.
>
> >As for North up. I prefer it in ALL navigation modes; foot, bike, 
> >car, nautical (I don't fly any more) - It gives a better sense of 
> >where you are in relation to other places, e.g. *"Suppose you're on 
> >M4 somewhere to the west of Bristol, that town to the north must be 
> >Swindon* - * Yes, and there's a decent cafe if you take the next exit 
> >south*". (Hypothetical). Very handy if you encounter an unusual 
> >traffic jam.
>
> There is likely also a setting for "north up", but after a few minutes 
> of looking, I have not found the location for that setting. Perhaps 
> another group member will indicate where the orientation setting 
> resides?
>
> >On Monday, 19 January 2026 at 07:21:04 UTC [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Op za 17 jan 2026 om 13:24 schreef Greg Troxel <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >>> I realize some people like 3D map view. My opinion is that people that
> >>> understand maps and navigation do not, because it obscures scale. So I
> >>> pretty much *never* want to see 3D.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I hear that argument more often in likewise wording: "people that
> >> understand maps.." (and also: "I'm a pilot, I always want the map facing
> >> north". Are you really that inflexible instead of bragging about what 
> you
> >> are?).
> >> I am 63 and have used maps all my life for cars, walking, hiking, 
> cycling.
> >> Most of my life there weren't navigation devices. I know about maps and
> >> about navigation, also on open water although that is some years behind 
> me.
> >> I use OsmAnd in 2D for cycling and walking/hiking. And since it's
> >> possible, I use Osmand in 3D for car navigation. That has nothing to do
> >> with (not) being able to read maps. It has to do with higher speeds and
> >> being able to see better what's in front of you.
> >> So yes, for driving I prefer 3D. And since I use navigation, for example
> >> in busy towns, I do not need the map as such to see where I am going. I
> >> need to hear the instructions, those are more important, and be able to
> >> have a fast glimpse to see how it is meant. And especially in 
> mountainous
> >> areas on small curvy roads, I highly prefer the 3D look. Despite the
> >> obscured scale (you are right there).
> >>
> >> It's about preferences. Not about the statement that people who use 3D
> >> can't read maps, making users who use 2D stand above those 3D minions. 
> ;).
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Harry
> >>
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