While we're talking about new decoders, is anybody currently working on
ADS-B on UAT 978MHz? As far as general aviation goes, this is where all the
good stuff (weather, GA transponders, etc) is going to be.

The commercial receivers cost like $900 and I don't see why.

I'm just coming up the RF and demodulation learning curve, but I could take
a stab at it. I would be more inclined to do so if someone who really knew
what he was doing thought it was worth attempting.

There's some stuff here: http://www.ads-b.com/PDF/UAT%20SARP.pdf that
describes the RF format. I can't tell if bandwidth is going to be a
problem. The spec requires 20dB attenuation beyond 1 MHz and 50 dB by 2
MHz, making me thing this is perhaps within the dongle's capability, or
will the small amount of energy outside 2 or 3 MHz is actually important.
See... just coming up the learning curve.

I think there is coverage in my area (San Francisco, CA) so I can make
recordings in the air if that's a help. One problem with these aviation
signals is that they are general hard to record on the ground.

Regards,
Dave J


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, <[email protected]>wrote:

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> OK, turns out someone beat us to it a while ago, even going so far as to
> reverse-engineer the cheesy crypto FLARM put in there to discourage
> copycats. The PHY is a Nordic nRF905 (+10dBm output), the medium access
> control is blind random-interval squitter with no two-way communication,
> and all Onera's vaunted "prediction" logic is being done in an AVR (!).
> Kids these days...
>
> http://pastebin.com/8ke6jnQZ
>
> The good news is Manchester-encoded GFSK is dead simple to decode, and the
> known parameters of the nRF905 make it easy to write a receiver.
>
> --n
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> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Nick Foster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is a new one! Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Looks like a
> > voluntary, GPS-based (i.e., not secondary surveillance) system. While the
> > serial protocol appears to be NMEA-like, the protocol "under the hood" at
> > the PHY layer could be basically anything, and the FLARM consortium
> appears
> > to have elected to keep specs hidden. Reading the dataport specification
> > gives few insights as to the PHY layer, but at least it's good to know
> the
> > protocol has "future-proof" support for all aircraft types.
> >
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > If you record good FLARM transmissions I am happy to assist in decoding
> > what I can, not least because proprietary protocols were meant to be
> open.
> > =)
> >
> > --n
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Fritz Meier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, to all
> >> after I've seen with RTL ADSB and DUMP1090 how ADS-B transponder data
> >> 1090MHz (pulse modulation) is decoded I would like to start with FLARM
> >> (Europe 868.2 and 868.4MHz frequency modulated). The position data of
> >> gliders
> >> (ID, latitude, longitude and altitude) are sent 1xsec in the form of
> >> NMEA-like records.
> >> I work with the BeagleBone black and have a FLARM transmitter installed
> >> near
> >> the RTL-Dongle/Antenne and may at any time start recording I/Qsamples
> >> with RTL_SDR.
> >> Thanks
> >> Fritz
> >>
> >>
> >
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