Doesn't it derive the USB clock from the 28.8 MHz crystal? In this case you
are out, USB needs the correct frequency to work.

Ralph.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:osmocom-sdr-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Malcolm Robb
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:33 AM
> To: Kevin Reid
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Maximum sampling frequency questions.
> 
> It's ADSB/ModeS. I'm partly responsible for dump1090. The 'bit rate' is
2Mhz,
> and the RF center is 1090Mhz.
> 
> There are several issues with the current sampling at 2Mhz, the main ones
> being....
> 1) The Bandwidth is +/- 1Mhz, but some aircraft are a long way off the
center
> 1090 Mhz frequency so are missed because they are out of band. A higher
> sampling frequency results in a wider bandwidth so would pull in more
> signals.
> 2) Nyquist means that you get nasty beating effects as signals drift in
and out
> of phase with the sampling clock.
> 
> I had considered sampling at 3Mhz which would help both the above, but the
> loss of samples would be the deal breaker. At 2.4Mhz, the maths is a bit
> nasty for not a lot of improvement. The cheap and easy solution would be
to
> change the crystal to a faster one, if the RTL chip can stand the over
clocking.
> If the data loss is at the PC end, then this is unlikely to help. However,
if the
> data loss is at the dongle end, then overclocking should linearly increase
all
> the 2.4Mhz parameters without data loss, again assuming the RTL chip can
> take the overclocking.
> 
> Cheers
> Malcolm
> ________________________________________
> From: Kevin Reid [[email protected]] on behalf of Kevin Reid
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: 11 September 2014 00:26
> To: Malcolm Robb
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Maximum sampling frequency questions.
> 
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 15:50, Malcolm Robb <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm currently sampling a 2Mhz digital data stream at 2MHz, so obviously
I'm
> suffering quite badly from Nyquist issues. Ideally I'd like to sample at
either
> 4Mhz, or better still 8Mhz. I understand that theoretically I can set the
> [RTL2832] dongle to sample at 3.2Mhz, but that data loss is virtually
> inevitable.
> 
> The RTL2832 gives you *complex* (I/Q) samples. This does not exactly
> change the Nyquist limit of 1 MHz (for a 2 MHz sample rate), but it makes
it
> be *plus or minus* 1 MHz, or 2 MHz in total.
> 
> If you have a digital radio signal which occupies 2 MHz of bandwidth, you
> *should* be able to receive it with a RTL dongle, given that:
> - the signal is strong enough
> - you are using the 2.4 MHz sample rate, not 2.0 (filters aren't perfect,
> especially not these ones, so you need some margin above Nyquist)
> - there is no DC offset (i.e. not E4000 tuner), or you have corrected it,
or it
> doesn't matter for the modulation in question
> 
> Perhaps you could tell us more about what signal you're trying to receive,
> and what software you're currently using?
> 
> (I don't have any answers for the other questions in your message.)
> 
> --
> Kevin Reid                                  <http://switchb.org/kpreid/>
> 



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