hi xuxiaohu,

On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote:
> OSPF extension draft proposes to use Extended Prefix Opaque LSA to carry 
> SR-related attributes. Since the Extended Prefix Opaque LSA does not 
> advertise reachability of the prefix, but only its attributes, the prefixes 
> contained within those LSAs for building IP routing table (e.g., Router LSAs) 
> can be aggregated when crossing area boundaries while the Extended Prefix 
> Opaque LSAs containing prefix SIDs can be intactly propagated across area 
> boudaries. The final effect is much similar to the mechanism defined in 
> RFC5283.
> 
> In contract, IS-IS extension draft proposes to reuse those Extended IP 
> Reachability TLVs which are used for building IP routing table to carry 
> SR-related attributes. Although this choice has the benefit of propagating 
> less LSAs, it loses the capability of aggregating routes when a crossing 
> level boudaries. Furthermore, it requires the L1/L2 routers much be 
> SR-capable.

and why is it a problem squeezing a few thousand transport loopbacks
across an ABR / L1L2 router ?

> Although these two drafts are proposing extensions to two different IGPs, 
> IMHO, it would better to provide similar capabilities if possible, especially 
> advoid destroying the existing capabilities of these two IGPs,  e.g., 
> inter-area/level route aggregation capability.

most SPs running hierarchical IS-IS have turned on domain wide prefix leaking.
in fact doing aggregation in those environments is prohibitive in determining
the true cost to a particular BGP next hop. - so we do not really loose
much.

> To Peter Psenak,
> 
> I don't agree with your argrment that the reason that IS-IS extension draft 
> made that choice is because there is no choice for IS-IS.

i second that opinion - the only extensible container for IP prefixes are the 
extended IP reach TLVs.

> In fact, you can use the signalling mechanism for Label Request which has 
> been proposed in draft-xu-rtgwg-global-label-adv-00. That's to say, you can 
> use separate Extended IP Reachability TLVs other than those for IP 
> reachability advertisement to carry SR-related attibutes. Since the former 
> TLVs are intened for advertising label bindings other than building IP 
> routing table, the Metric field of these TLVs is set to a value larger than 
> MAX_PATH_METRIC (i.e., 0xFE000000). It's a normal approach for IS-IS. Of 
> course, if SR is just used within a single level, it's good to use the 
> existing approach proposed in the IS-IS extension draft.


keep in mind that we do not advertise a label per prefix but rather a global 
*index*.
it is my understanding that the semantics of draft-xu-rtgwg-global-label-adv-00
are quite different in the sense that absolute label values are being 
advertised here.

/hannes
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